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for the masses headline edition july 8

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found

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and is now in the possession of the

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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you are 1985 to fade to black with jimmy

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church on the game changer network

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good evening fade to black

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how you doing today is monday may 4th

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2020.

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125 days into the new year only 241 days

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and may the 4th

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be with you happy star wars day

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everybody

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night we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in the middle of beautiful

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downtown burbank california

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and kg are a the planets

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i'm yours jimmy church what is cracking

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everybody how you doing

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yeah man you know

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you know this this planet is a great

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yeah man got a great week here on fade

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and uh rita and i were just talking

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and the next three weeks uh for fade to

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uh are just gonna be amazing and

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i i i just can't believe what's coming

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just looking at this week it's a perfect

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of why this show is so much fun to do

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because tonight

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very special guest and kicking off the

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whitley strieber is here and

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man oh man what a show we have got lined

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up for tonight

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and then tomorrow night right here on

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johnny enoch joins us and johnny

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to egypt and then to the uk and then

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and what happened in egypt and

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the uk before he came home that's all

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it's going to be really cool

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and then wednesday nights nick redfearn

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nick redfearn has got a new book out

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the rendelshim forest ufo conspiracy

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and i posted today and i mean this

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mick likes to lit

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knit nick likes to stir the pot let's

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and for him it's fun it's sport it's a

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way of life it's what he does

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and we love it and that is wednesday

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night i cannot wait to cover this

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so that'll be wednesday thursday nights

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another fader night with open lines

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all night long right now

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you can follow me on twitter at j church

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radio all right you can kick it off

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right there

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start your fade to black involvement

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your participation hasn't fade or not

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you you can start right there follow me

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on twitter at jchurchradio

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all right and then after you take that

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as well no not a tie fighter what uh

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that's that's luke

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could be as cool as the millennium

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man that's a that's a cool looking uh

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right there okay and then hashtag excuse

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questions you can also email throughout

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everything up and live we've got the

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chat rooms open over at spreaker and

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of course everybody over on facebook and

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and youtube you guys are just chatting

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and commenting away hello to everybody

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that's out there uh

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okay i guess the old bunker cam is gone

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that i don't know the bunker cam should

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i i don't pay attention to all of that

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other people in the background but uh

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what are they talking about there i'm

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what do you mean the bunker cam is gone

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right here so i don't know i don't know

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what that's about

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the old bunker cam i'm not sure what

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do we have a new uh that camera

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multiple cameras in front of me is it

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this one no it's this one

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maybe we're running the wrong camera i

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don't know i don't know

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right and other homes are just feet away

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initially seven homes were evacuated

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three the number shall be three

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a gravel pit that's right archaeologists

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have unearthed the remains of a bronze

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a prize item reserved for vip burials of

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this chieftain had four

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such offerings that's right forehead

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carbon dating revealed that the two men

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right what are you guys doing tonight go

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man i haven't been to the head and hoof

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in a while yeah let's go check out the

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well later on this month the first

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is about to happen the mission will

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crew dragon spacecraft

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demo two will mark nasa's first crew

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florida and this is all going down

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and artificial intelligence conference

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is going down november 5th

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through the 8th we've got lots of cool

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things that we are going to be doing

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there

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alan stivelman sid goldberg and another

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dozen great speakers all right now i'm

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going to be hosting and i'm going to be

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doing some talking

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so tickets and info visit

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starworksusa.com

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yeah the links are over at

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jimmychurchradio.com very excited about

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disclosure fest

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now uh it has a new date which is

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august 8th which is a saturday here in

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los angeles

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there in downtown

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okay visit disclosurefest.org

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for all of your information and updates

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and tomorrow

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i believe it is tomorrow

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are you ready i'm going to be hosting

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the

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disclosure fest live stream with steven

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greer

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this is our part two so we're gonna have

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a chat tomorrow and then stephen is

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gonna lead us

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all on a meditation so that is going

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down tomorrow

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and we'll have the links up for that and

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you know what i'm going to make a

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a little advanced announcement because

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we officially haven't

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gotten it up there on the web and things

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but

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we'll do it over the next couple of days

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next week a week from today on monday

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i will be hosting and we're going to do

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a simulcast

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of the conjuring house who

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the new owners are in lockdown like the

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rest of us stay at home orders

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so a seven day

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paranormal lockdown

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and next monday night i am going to be

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hosting and talking to the family

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for a couple of hours and it's going to

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be simulcast i'll be live

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on tv as well as

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here on fade to black how cool is that

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so that'll be

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next monday like i said these next three

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weeks on fatal block are just going to

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be amazing

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and get ready for all of that let's get

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this show cracking happy birthday to

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today

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one of my favorites will arnett

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today 50 years old let's go to prison

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hot rod

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the rocker right he's also batman

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in the lego movies i bet you didn't know

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that green day basis

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mike dert today is 48

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guys a real bass player by the way jazz

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bass

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living icon ron carter

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today is 82. course miles davis

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blue note records right his appearances

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on 221 recording sessions

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make him the most recorded jazz bassist

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in history ron carter today

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82 years old motley cruz mick mars

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today 69 years old that's right and

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instincts lance bass

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i said it today is 41 years old

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lance will always make the birthday list

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because of tropic thunder our dead guy's

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birthday today is dick

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dale 1937 to 2019 died at the age of 81

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dale was known as the king of the surf

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guitar

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his song mr lew was used by quentin

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tarantino on pulp fiction

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now mr liu due to the suffix

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ooh right is the feminine greek

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form of miserless or

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egypt therefore the song is about

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an egyptian woman now

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think about uma thurman's haircut

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i'm just saying i'm just saying there

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you go on this day in history

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1970 national guardsmen

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fire fire their weapons at a group of

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anti-war demonstrators

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on the ken state university campus

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killing four students

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wounding eight and permanently

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paralyzing another

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yeah sad day in american history game

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changer

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fader fact in 1859

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thomas austin now this is for everybody

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in australia in the land down under this

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is for you

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in 1859

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thomas austin released 24

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rabbits for hunting into the wild in

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australia

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that's right a country which

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at that time had no native

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rabbit population by 1920

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60 years later their population

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increased to 10 billion

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this is the fastest spread ever recorded

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of any mammal and that

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they haven't stopped since and that is

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your fader fact

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i wonder if there's a thomas austin

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national

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holiday in australia

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there you go let the tweets fly from all

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of our friends in australia

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that's a crazy fader fact right there

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all right

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where am i at uh tonight whitley

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strieber is here is going to be with us

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at the bottom of the hour

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and i'm really looking forward to this

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conversation tonight so get ready for

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that but first

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let me hit this river moon coffee coffee

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dot com fade to black blend best coffee

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man man that's good coffee

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okay after all of this is over

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this virus crisis

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can you imagine what air travel is going

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to be like

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think about that for a second i don't

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think that the changes

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are going to be of the good variety

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now here's the thing if you are old

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enough

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remember flying back in the day and i'm

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talking about

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the 60s through the mid 90s

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right and remember about the mid 90s

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the night you know that's uh 25 years

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ago

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it's crazy you know how great it was

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right you do i remember and

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the memories are good back then

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it was all about the passenger the flyer

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every single thing that could or

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would make your travel better was

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attended to

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all of it flying made you feel special

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you see every airline was going to make

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you

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special regal and appreciated

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sure it was the food it was the drink it

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was the questions

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are you are you okay are you is there

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anything i can do is it

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it was the pillow it was the smoking

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actually

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it was a friggin party at 30 000 feet

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and it was a party that was thrown

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just for you

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and you knew this it was great

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love flying i remember i was flying home

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uh to indy back in 1985

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and i was traveling with my new flame

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guitar which is

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hanging up uh over there with some other

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some other guitars hanging up over there

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and uh

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uh i was flying home with that guitar

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and it was just built by neil moser it

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was fresh

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he had just finished it and i wanted to

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show it to my family and friends

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now i wasn't going to check it

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in as baggage no you're not going to do

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that with a guitar like that

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so i planned on just carrying it onto

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the plane

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and get it into the overhead compartment

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somehow in the back that was my plan

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anyway as i walked up to the door of the

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plane

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with my long hair you know full of

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aqua net the flight attendant says to me

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what is that and i said hey

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this is a new custom guitar you want to

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see it

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she said sure so i put the guitar in the

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ground

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i opened up the case and she continued

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with like wow that is beautiful

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and then she says if you want

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i can put it in first class for you

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where it'll be

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safe with me and you can pick it up when

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we land

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i was like wow thank you so much

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that is so nice she literally

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took the guitar case and put it in the

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first

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class coat closet which is right there

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next to her seat and said it's safe

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there it is she closed the door i said

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oh wow

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so go have the flight and and what

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happened now imagine

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i mean she was so nice you know she

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cared

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it wasn't an act now imagine this

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happening today

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you can't because it would

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i remember i remember the the end of the

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good old days of flying

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i do i remember like it was yesterday

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i had a travel agent her name was carol

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who handled everything for me when i was

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flying on business throughout the 90s

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she was great

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and when when i was

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getting my account set up with her as a

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client

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she had me fill out a bunch of paperwork

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and one of them was a preference

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form you know a thing about me and it

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had like favorite and preferred foods

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and drinks and

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you know aisle or window seats you want

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the front of the back of the plane

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right do you normally have checked on or

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carry on luggage or

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both and on this form i wrote

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seafood for meals i wrote

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fresh coffee and perrier for drinks and

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and then i had a breakfast section

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had a lunch section and i even wrote

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scrambled egg sausage and bacon

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for breakfast i did seriously these were

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actual

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questions now on my first business

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flight with

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the carol that she booked for me as

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the flight attendant comes down the

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aisle asking everyone chicken or beef

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chicken or beef chicken or beef

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they skipped me right and i i didn't

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think anything about it

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at the time but when the food was

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delivered

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there was a fresh salad

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with shrimp on the top and

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my name written on a label

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and i was like wow mr church right

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this service happened on

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every flight for a few years and i

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really got used to it

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i'm telling you i flew in the morning

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man scrambled eggs bacon sausage

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this is nuts perrier you know

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and uh flight attendant come on here's

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your fresh coffee mr church

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wow wow this is great

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well i loved flying i did

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then southwest happened

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screwed it up for everybody and then you

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can follow that with the unabomber

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because at that time in 1996 and i

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i to the day i remember when everything

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changed

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right i was on a plane

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every single week i i know what was

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going on out there

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everything was great until a flight from

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sacramento

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back to los angeles at the gate in

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sacramento

572
00:25:00,070 --> 00:24:58,480
right waiting for it waiting to board

573
00:25:04,149 --> 00:25:00,080
the plane some feds

574
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:04,159
show up badges and cops and

575
00:25:10,950 --> 00:25:08,080
literally walk in to the seating area

576
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:10,960
at the gate and started to walk up to

577
00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:11,440
people

578
00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:14,159
asking them to search their carry-on

579
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:15,279
luggage

580
00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:17,360
and i'm watching this go down i'm i'm on

581
00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:18,559
this side to see it

582
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:20,159
see it going down over here and some

583
00:25:25,269 --> 00:25:22,240
people were absolutely

584
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:25,279
horrified just to have them open

585
00:25:28,870 --> 00:25:27,360
up their bags and just imagine being

586
00:25:29,669 --> 00:25:28,880
surprised about this it's one thing

587
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:29,679
today

588
00:25:36,149 --> 00:25:32,880
you expect it imagine that just walk up

589
00:25:37,909 --> 00:25:36,159
open your bags right everyone was

590
00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:37,919
getting really uncomfortable and the

591
00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:39,279
agent started to say

592
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:41,760
things like if i can't search your

593
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:43,279
carry-on you're gonna have to book

594
00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:44,559
another flight

595
00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:48,000
and i nearly lost it uh

596
00:25:56,390 --> 00:25:52,640
in anger i've uh man it was getting ugly

597
00:25:59,830 --> 00:25:56,400
now when they came up to me

598
00:26:03,190 --> 00:25:59,840
i was a different person i caved

599
00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:03,200
i did no anger i wasn't going to show

600
00:26:08,230 --> 00:26:05,520
anything i needed to get on this flight

601
00:26:09,909 --> 00:26:08,240
i even unzipped my bag form you know and

602
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:09,919
they went through my computer case as

603
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:10,320
well

604
00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:12,960
and i was i just felt so violated and

605
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:14,720
then a couple of days later

606
00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:17,360
i was flying from la to new york

607
00:26:21,830 --> 00:26:19,919
non-stop out of lax

608
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:21,840
and and i'm on this flight and the

609
00:26:28,230 --> 00:26:23,520
flight attendant comes up to me says

610
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:28,240
chicken or beef i was like what

611
00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:32,640
chicken or beef chicken

612
00:26:36,470 --> 00:26:34,799
and i thought to myself they must have

613
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:36,480
lost my name somewhere

614
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:39,440
right check with carol tomorrow you know

615
00:26:44,149 --> 00:26:40,559
get to the bottom of this

616
00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:44,159
so the next day i called her and i said

617
00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:44,559
hey

618
00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:50,880
salad right and her reply was

619
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:53,600
she's like jimmy there's some changes

620
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:54,480
happening with

621
00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:57,600
air travel no more special

622
00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:00,960
menu requests and in fact

623
00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:04,840
soon there's going to be no more

624
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:08,080
food i was like oh what

625
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:11,360
1996 was the last year of real

626
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:14,960
air travel five years later 911 happened

627
00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:17,679
and that took things to a new level you

628
00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:20,080
know and with the unabomber and t

629
00:27:25,510 --> 00:27:23,039
tsa and searches and all of that

630
00:27:27,269 --> 00:27:25,520
combined with the downsizing and budget

631
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:27,279
cuts in the airline industry and then

632
00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:29,279
911 happened

633
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:31,600
and and when 9 11 happened that broke

634
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:33,520
through to a level

635
00:27:39,990 --> 00:27:36,720
uh right through the floor to a place

636
00:27:43,190 --> 00:27:40,000
that we just didn't know anything about

637
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:43,200
right but today most of us are used to

638
00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:45,760
the absolute no frills airline industry

639
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:48,240
and the draconian tsa lines

640
00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:51,360
shoe removal body scans

641
00:27:54,470 --> 00:27:53,200
airports and flights have been reduced

642
00:27:57,110 --> 00:27:54,480
to nothingness

643
00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:57,120
nothing matters not you not your luggage

644
00:28:01,590 --> 00:27:59,679
not the experience

645
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:01,600
the flight attendants they don't want to

646
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:03,840
be there the workers at the airport they

647
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:04,880
don't want to be there

648
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:07,360
the pilots are nothing special anymore

649
00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:08,720
you remember how they had that

650
00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:11,760
they had god status well today

651
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:14,399
they're treated like first-time mcdonald

652
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:15,600
employees working

653
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:18,000
part-time during summer vacation from

654
00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:19,279
school

655
00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:22,159
so you have to ask yourself how can it

656
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:22,480
get

657
00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:25,679
any worse just wait

658
00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:28,799
you'll see you'll see there won't be

659
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:30,320
anybody greeting you

660
00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:33,760
at the plane's door you know saying

661
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:36,720
how are you today everything okay let me

662
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:40,080
take that extra precious special guitar

663
00:28:46,389 --> 00:28:43,120
and put it in first class where it'll be

664
00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:46,399
safe nope not gonna hear it and maybe

665
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:48,559
this will be the chance for the entire

666
00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:50,880
airline industry to change

667
00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:53,360
to roll back to the times when flying

668
00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:54,559
was special

669
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:57,600
and they may have to do it right

670
00:29:02,389 --> 00:28:58,880
they're gonna have to do it to win our

671
00:29:05,510 --> 00:29:02,399
hearts back and our wallets

672
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:05,520
there you go anything is possible right

673
00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:07,279
this is fade to black i am your host

674
00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:09,840
jimmy church tonight whitley strieber

675
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:12,640
is here this is fade to black on the

676
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:14,240
game changer network and k

677
00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:17,200
g r a the planets you can follow me on

678
00:29:19,590 --> 00:29:17,679
twitter

679
00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:19,600
at j george radio you can follow whitley

680
00:29:23,990 --> 00:29:20,799
at whitley strieber

681
00:29:25,789 --> 00:29:24,000
we've got that up in twitter on the game

682
00:29:29,110 --> 00:29:25,799
changer network and

683
00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:29,120
kgra the planets

684
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:31,840
email is jimmy jimmychurchradio.com i'll

685
00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:33,360
be right back with our guest whitley

686
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:34,240
strieber

687
00:29:57,510 --> 00:29:55,830
welcome back paid to black i

688
00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:57,520
am your host jimmy church tonight

689
00:30:02,950 --> 00:30:00,640
whitley strieber is here tomorrow night

690
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:02,960
johnny enoch wednesday night nick

691
00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:04,240
redfearn

692
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:06,080
thursday night another fader night with

693
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:08,240
open lines all night long what a great

694
00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:09,200
weekend

695
00:30:12,950 --> 00:30:10,720
whitley is here tonight to kick things

696
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:12,960
off and we are going to discuss

697
00:30:17,029 --> 00:30:14,960
his recent communication with the

698
00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:17,039
visitors and their message

699
00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:20,960
to all of us right here on planet earth

700
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:23,039
of course whitley is the author of the

701
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:25,679
communion series of books and his latest

702
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:26,559
book

703
00:30:31,430 --> 00:30:29,600
released last year a new world and as

704
00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:31,440
science advances we are finding that the

705
00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:33,600
universe is far larger more complex than

706
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:36,240
we ever imagined and mysterious beings

707
00:30:43,269 --> 00:30:40,240
like our visitors which uh was dismissed

708
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:43,279
by many are turning out to be real this

709
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:45,600
is a calling to all of us to find a new

710
00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:46,960
life a new world in which

711
00:30:52,470 --> 00:30:50,000
they play a part with not only

712
00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:52,480
was whitley the author of the communion

713
00:30:57,190 --> 00:30:54,480
series and many novels

714
00:30:57,909 --> 00:30:57,200
uh ranging from wolfen and the hunger to

715
00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:57,919
the grays

716
00:31:01,350 --> 00:31:00,640
and the alien hunter series communion

717
00:31:03,909 --> 00:31:01,360
the wolfen

718
00:31:05,830 --> 00:31:03,919
the hunger and superstorm have all been

719
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:05,840
made into movies and super storm of

720
00:31:09,669 --> 00:31:07,039
course was

721
00:31:10,950 --> 00:31:09,679
the day after tomorrow his websites are

722
00:31:12,990 --> 00:31:10,960
unknown country.com

723
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:13,000
and streeper.com the links are over at

724
00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:14,720
jimmychurchradio.com you can click on

725
00:31:16,789 --> 00:31:15,279
those

726
00:31:19,430 --> 00:31:16,799
i would like to welcome back to fade to

727
00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:19,440
black whitley strieber

728
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:21,919
i just love saying whitley strieber

729
00:31:26,630 --> 00:31:23,120
whitley good evening

730
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:26,640
how are you in a way yeah it is

731
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:29,360
it is it is yeah you like that rhythm

732
00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:30,000
the in the

733
00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:31,919
in the words uh yeah it's good to be

734
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:33,519
back jimmy i'm very

735
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:35,760
wish it was happier times but i'm still

736
00:31:38,070 --> 00:31:37,519
glad to be here and i'm glad everyone's

737
00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:38,080
here too

738
00:31:41,509 --> 00:31:40,159
well as i sign off maybe after a couple

739
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:41,519
of uh broadcasts

740
00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:43,279
instead of saying go beckley tappy i'll

741
00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:45,200
just say whitley strieber

742
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:47,279
so there you go that would be fun that's

743
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:48,880
okay you can go ahead and do that

744
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:52,000
i'll do that i'll do that and um whitley

745
00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:54,960
uh in my opening rant tonight uh and i

746
00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:57,360
only say this because you and i

747
00:32:02,710 --> 00:32:00,799
are are from another generation um

748
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:02,720
then you know a large part of this

749
00:32:06,710 --> 00:32:04,320
audience is much younger already

750
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:06,720
yeah i know i know i know i know i know

751
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:07,600
it's scary

752
00:32:14,470 --> 00:32:10,880
but it's uh it's it's this whitley um

753
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:14,480
uh air travel you uh

754
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:16,640
through the you you've experienced just

755
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:17,679
like i have

756
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:20,880
each uh decade of air travel

757
00:32:26,149 --> 00:32:24,000
and and it's degradation but

758
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:26,159
up until the mid 90s air travel was

759
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:27,760
special wasn't it you

760
00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:30,559
felt oh yeah you were at another level

761
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:33,519
right it's not that way anymore

762
00:32:37,909 --> 00:32:36,399
listen i listen i grew up in the 50s and

763
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:37,919
my dad was a

764
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:41,519
big fan of air travel and he took me

765
00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:43,440
everywhere he went he loved to take his

766
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:44,960
boy with him and

767
00:32:49,669 --> 00:32:48,320
so i flew all over the place with my

768
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:49,679
father

769
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:53,440
back in the in the days when airplanes

770
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:53,760
were

771
00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:57,200
noisier more bumpy

772
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:00,240
more comfortable more special

773
00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:03,360
and more dangerous all of the above

774
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:05,919
and all of the above yeah and flying was

775
00:33:11,110 --> 00:33:06,799
an event

776
00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:11,120
right your hair was combed dressed up

777
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:14,799
little boy had on a little tie and suit

778
00:33:19,430 --> 00:33:17,760
just like his daddy yeah absolutely yeah

779
00:33:22,870 --> 00:33:19,440
it was a big deal

780
00:33:25,029 --> 00:33:22,880
and you know it it you we think back and

781
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:25,039
you always see the pictures of the food

782
00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:26,880
on the long haul flights but

783
00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:29,440
the actual truth was that on a short

784
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:30,559
haul flight

785
00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:32,240
you'd get basically a sandwich and

786
00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:33,679
coffee or something like

787
00:33:37,029 --> 00:33:35,039
pretty much like you do a little more

788
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:37,039
than you do now but not all that much

789
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:40,720
the heyday of it actually was in the 70s

790
00:33:48,070 --> 00:33:44,240
and then they there was still a lot of

791
00:33:49,669 --> 00:33:48,080
airline competition the uh

792
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:49,679
they were subsidized so they could

793
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:52,320
afford to to

794
00:33:59,909 --> 00:33:57,279
to they could afford to

795
00:34:01,110 --> 00:33:59,919
compete with each other other over what

796
00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:01,120
you got

797
00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:02,799
and there was even one airline that was

798
00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:04,960
like cooking stakes in the air

799
00:34:08,389 --> 00:34:08,000
yeah i remember that i i do airways or

800
00:34:10,069 --> 00:34:08,399
something

801
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:10,079
yeah i said and you know somehow or

802
00:34:13,030 --> 00:34:11,520
another i don't want to be in an

803
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:13,040
airplane where they're grilling steaks

804
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:14,560
in the back i'd rather not

805
00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:17,280
be grilled myself you know i remember

806
00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:18,879
that whole ad campaign

807
00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:20,960
with the world stakes i i totally

808
00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:22,000
remember that

809
00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:25,359
i um i was old enough in

810
00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:27,839
right in the middle of the 70s uh i did

811
00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:30,000
some flying by myself i had to fly to

812
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:31,040
and from

813
00:34:37,430 --> 00:34:34,960
central america uh many times and

814
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:37,440
and well that's a big deal yeah you were

815
00:34:41,909 --> 00:34:39,200
a kid yeah i was 15

816
00:34:43,349 --> 00:34:41,919
yeah 14 15 16 years old yeah i flew all

817
00:34:46,389 --> 00:34:43,359
over when i was a kid too

818
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:46,399
yeah and it was it was so much

819
00:34:50,950 --> 00:34:49,440
fun you know and you just felt like you

820
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:50,960
were part of a monarchy

821
00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:53,040
you know and right i mean it was really

822
00:34:57,510 --> 00:34:55,679
fun in in the 60s i flew a lot

823
00:34:59,190 --> 00:34:57,520
i flew mostly with my dad when i was a

824
00:35:01,750 --> 00:34:59,200
little boy but then in the 60s

825
00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:01,760
i flew a lot by myself and it was

826
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:02,480
special

827
00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:06,960
if you get a bag of peanuts

828
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:10,480
and a cup of water you you you think you

829
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:10,960
won

830
00:35:14,950 --> 00:35:13,200
you're grateful you're grateful real

831
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:14,960
peanuts i can't i can't eat them of

832
00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:16,480
course now because i'm allergic to them

833
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:17,200
but

834
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:18,960
they're still real and i'm i'm actually

835
00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:20,560
not allergic to them i'm joking but a

836
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:21,760
lot of people are now

837
00:35:26,069 --> 00:35:25,040
yeah and it's uh and and le this is a

838
00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:26,079
good lead-in

839
00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:28,079
there's always a method to my madness

840
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:30,000
whitley and you're used to that i know

841
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:33,280
this just yes to you and it it which is

842
00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:33,839
this

843
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:38,560
changes right now we're going to be

844
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:39,839
discussing that throughout the show

845
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:41,280
tonight but

846
00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:45,040
um part of this global change

847
00:35:48,870 --> 00:35:46,640
in front of us and we're all wondering

848
00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:48,880
how it's going to play out in the end

849
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:50,960
is the airline industry that's a perfect

850
00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:52,960
example of that when things fire up

851
00:35:56,550 --> 00:35:54,320
again

852
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:56,560
what's what what is air travel can it

853
00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:57,520
get worse

854
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:00,640
right can they can they take it

855
00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:02,800
take this down a notch or is this an

856
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:04,000
opportunity

857
00:36:08,390 --> 00:36:05,839
for the airline industry to go you know

858
00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:08,400
what uh we appreciate your business

859
00:36:11,510 --> 00:36:10,000
and we're gonna go the other way we're

860
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:11,520
gonna kick things up

861
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:13,200
and and we're going to make flying

862
00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:14,800
special i is this

863
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:16,640
opportunity i think that it depends on

864
00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:18,400
the top management of the airlines

865
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:20,000
jet blue is probably going to go down

866
00:36:24,550 --> 00:36:22,640
that road uh delta will go down that

867
00:36:25,990 --> 00:36:24,560
road i'm not so sure about united and

868
00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:26,000
i'm fairly sure

869
00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:28,640
that uh americans gonna put in benches

870
00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:30,079
and pews if they can

871
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:37,910
oh man uh i love the way your mind works

872
00:36:43,109 --> 00:36:41,440
and we were we were uh scheduled

873
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:43,119
we're gonna do it next year now it's

874
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:45,119
been moved uh we were scheduled to go

875
00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:46,079
over to the uk

876
00:36:49,510 --> 00:36:48,800
this month and uh next month this month

877
00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:49,520
next month

878
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:52,560
uh for a conference over there and i was

879
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:54,960
looking forward to flying on british air

880
00:36:58,950 --> 00:36:56,640
right to get that to see if the

881
00:37:00,870 --> 00:36:58,960
experience was going to be different

882
00:37:02,630 --> 00:37:00,880
and that would be that would be

883
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:02,640
definitely something you should

884
00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:05,760
think carefully about really

885
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:08,000
oh yeah uh virgin's probably going to go

886
00:37:12,550 --> 00:37:09,040
under yeah that's

887
00:37:14,470 --> 00:37:12,560
right that's right but uh virgin was

888
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:14,480
much better than british air in recent

889
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:15,680
years yeah

890
00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:17,920
i couldn't get direct flights uh going

891
00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:19,440
into manchester

892
00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:22,320
with uh virgin direct flight's coming

893
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:23,119
back out

894
00:37:26,550 --> 00:37:24,640
but nothing going on you know you know

895
00:37:30,069 --> 00:37:26,560
how it is it's just so strange

896
00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:30,079
but is this an opportunity uh for

897
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:32,160
everybody and i'm talking when i say

898
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:33,680
everybody i mean everybody on this

899
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:34,720
planet

900
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:38,160
um from the very tops of

901
00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:40,480
politics and geopolitics and state

902
00:37:43,589 --> 00:37:41,280
actors

903
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:43,599
all the way down to people like you and

904
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:44,320
myself

905
00:37:50,790 --> 00:37:47,520
is this an opportunity for everybody to

906
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:50,800
uh take a collective uh

907
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:53,280
stance on on what we have been doing in

908
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:54,400
the past

909
00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:57,440
versus the future and and

910
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:00,800
maybe make some changes we need to look

911
00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:02,640
at ourselves in a new way there's no

912
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:04,320
question about that

913
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:07,760
we we we are social creatures and that

914
00:38:11,109 --> 00:38:08,320
means

915
00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:11,119
we have two choices we either are going

916
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:12,800
to split off into small

917
00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:15,599
tribal groups of various kinds countries

918
00:38:18,870 --> 00:38:17,119
cities towns

919
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:18,880
different ideologies and political

920
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:20,880
beliefs etc

921
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:23,520
or we're going to see ours begin to see

922
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:25,119
ourselves

923
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:27,440
as a very large social group called

924
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:28,880
humanity

925
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:32,320
and right now

926
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:35,440
it's becoming fairly clear

927
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:39,520
that if we don't start to see ourselves

928
00:38:46,390 --> 00:38:42,560
as part of a bigger picture

929
00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:46,400
we're in trouble we we cannot

930
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:50,240
do this uh we have to everyone has to

931
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:50,880
realize

932
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:53,520
that they're not alone like this virus

933
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:54,160
spreading

934
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:56,000
like wildfire around the world is

935
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:57,520
because we really are

936
00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:00,560
that big group already we just play like

937
00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:02,480
we're not we play like well

938
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:04,560
i'm from such and such a state and

939
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:06,480
therefore we don't have much coronavirus

940
00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:07,040
so

941
00:39:11,109 --> 00:39:09,119
the state next door is get full of it

942
00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:11,119
and that's their problem

943
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:13,520
but it's not i don't see any wall

944
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:15,839
between those two states

945
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:18,480
or and it's the same way with countries

946
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:20,079
we're all in this together

947
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:22,320
with especially with a pandemic god

948
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:25,119
knows and and the economic catastrophe

949
00:39:31,990 --> 00:39:28,480
that is on its way as well yeah

950
00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:32,000
and and that's going to be amazing

951
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:34,720
and it already is terrible but it is

952
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:36,800
going to be unlike anything

953
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:40,320
any of us have ever known in our lives

954
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:43,040
and it will be unlike anything in our

955
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:43,680
history

956
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:45,920
and in that i clued include the great

957
00:39:48,630 --> 00:39:46,960
depression

958
00:39:50,710 --> 00:39:48,640
and i don't mean it's going to be a

959
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:50,720
worse version of that

960
00:39:54,069 --> 00:39:52,640
i mean it's going to be very different

961
00:39:57,349 --> 00:39:54,079
from everything

962
00:40:02,390 --> 00:39:57,359
and this is uh uh another

963
00:40:05,829 --> 00:40:02,400
way to look at it we know it's coming

964
00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:05,839
right uh the great depression that was

965
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:09,520
uh sudden right uh

966
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:12,240
there there were certain aspects 2008

967
00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:13,359
and what happened then

968
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:16,640
sudden a natural disaster sudden you

969
00:40:21,990 --> 00:40:18,640
know these are things that just occur

970
00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:22,000
very quickly this time around

971
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:24,960
we we've made all the forecasting we

972
00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:26,960
know we see the news reports

973
00:40:30,470 --> 00:40:29,520
we know what's coming and we're able to

974
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:30,480
brace for it

975
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:32,640
and i think that's uh that's a big

976
00:40:37,829 --> 00:40:34,720
difference uh this time around

977
00:40:40,870 --> 00:40:37,839
not only emotionally but the way that we

978
00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:40,880
will that we will deal with it with the

979
00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:43,680
logistics side

980
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:47,119
right well we we have to

981
00:40:51,589 --> 00:40:49,040
deal with the logistic side on an

982
00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:51,599
international basis like right now

983
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:53,920
the virus is beginning to really spread

984
00:40:58,950 --> 00:40:54,640
in india

985
00:41:01,990 --> 00:40:58,960
russia and brazil

986
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:02,000
and none of these countries

987
00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:05,440
are able to handle it none of them

988
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:07,440
russia included russia is basically a

989
00:41:10,710 --> 00:41:08,880
third world country

990
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:10,720
with a couple of first world cities

991
00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:14,000
tacked on saint petersburg and moscow

992
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:17,680
and uh india

993
00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:21,280
most people in india live in a single

994
00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:23,040
room and most families have

995
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:25,280
of the average family is five members

996
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:27,920
the average home is one room

997
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:29,839
and you know if something like this gets

998
00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:32,480
out of hand in a place like that

999
00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:34,160
that's that's going to be an

1000
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:37,040
extraordinary human catastrophe

1001
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:40,400
and the in brazil right now it's brazil

1002
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:42,720
is a little wealthier country than india

1003
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:44,319
per capita

1004
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:46,240
but it's still spreading very rapidly

1005
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:48,800
because something like eighty percent of

1006
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:51,520
a very high percentage of the brazilian

1007
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:52,720
population

1008
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:55,520
live below the poverty level and the

1009
00:42:01,349 --> 00:41:56,960
definition of poverty

1010
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:01,359
is unbelievably low in those countries

1011
00:42:06,950 --> 00:42:04,640
you know we the a person who's living at

1012
00:42:08,069 --> 00:42:06,960
the us definition of the poverty level

1013
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:08,079
would be rich

1014
00:42:12,390 --> 00:42:11,359
in many countries of the world now how

1015
00:42:16,309 --> 00:42:12,400
does

1016
00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:16,319
uh this very tangible

1017
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:19,040
uh paradigm shift because we all know it

1018
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:21,760
not only from an economic standpoint

1019
00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:25,280
but from a realization

1020
00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:27,839
that you mentioned this earlier there

1021
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:29,440
are no borders

1022
00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:31,680
right there we are all in this together

1023
00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:33,839
right now this is a global situation and

1024
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:34,720
certainly

1025
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:37,440
everybody's been affected by it with the

1026
00:42:41,750 --> 00:42:38,480
the knowledge

1027
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:41,760
of this this paradigm shift that you can

1028
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:43,280
reach out and touch

1029
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:47,440
whitley is aware everybody knows

1030
00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:50,880
about it are we gonna have amnesia when

1031
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:52,000
all of this is done

1032
00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:54,000
after we've been shaken and scared to

1033
00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:56,560
our core or are we gonna rise up

1034
00:43:02,790 --> 00:43:00,079
and and just be different well

1035
00:43:04,710 --> 00:43:02,800
both things are going to happen you can

1036
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:04,720
look back on past

1037
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:08,240
pandemics to see

1038
00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:11,440
like the black death which was a really

1039
00:43:15,829 --> 00:43:13,200
upsetting pandemic it

1040
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:15,839
it it probably killed more than half of

1041
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:18,160
the population of europe

1042
00:43:25,109 --> 00:43:21,760
and of course in those days they had no

1043
00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:25,119
idea what was going on they didn't even

1044
00:43:29,349 --> 00:43:26,000
know what the human

1045
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:29,359
body really was is in in in the medieval

1046
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:29,920
period

1047
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:32,319
no idea at all and so they were just

1048
00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:35,280
dying like flies

1049
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:38,800
afterwards the following things happened

1050
00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:43,920
first the surf the population of surfs

1051
00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:46,000
became a population of peasants in other

1052
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:47,119
words they

1053
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:48,880
began to demand more because there were

1054
00:43:52,870 --> 00:43:50,400
fewer of them and

1055
00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:52,880
if somebody wanted their farmland worked

1056
00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:55,119
they were going to have to pay

1057
00:43:59,349 --> 00:43:58,079
and so the feudal system began to break

1058
00:44:02,150 --> 00:43:59,359
down

1059
00:44:03,270 --> 00:44:02,160
which would lead inevitably to the

1060
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:03,280
renaissance

1061
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:06,400
years but a long time later but that was

1062
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:08,240
the first real crack in the feudal

1063
00:44:16,630 --> 00:44:09,680
system

1064
00:44:23,030 --> 00:44:20,150
people weren't thinking about it anymore

1065
00:44:26,270 --> 00:44:23,040
and another example more recently is the

1066
00:44:28,190 --> 00:44:26,280
spanish flu epidemic

1067
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:28,200
1919-1922

1068
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:30,560
unbelievable number of hundreds of

1069
00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:32,240
millions of people died

1070
00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:35,680
all across the world but

1071
00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:39,680
by 1925 it was the roaring 20s

1072
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:42,400
and we had put it behind us we weren't

1073
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:44,319
thinking about it anymore

1074
00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:47,200
we didn't really know how to prevent it

1075
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:48,480
i mean

1076
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:50,480
their method of preventing it was cotton

1077
00:44:54,950 --> 00:44:52,319
masks

1078
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:54,960
and that was it they had essentially no

1079
00:44:59,270 --> 00:44:56,880
treatment for it whatsoever

1080
00:45:00,470 --> 00:44:59,280
you if you got that flu you either lived

1081
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:00,480
you didn't and

1082
00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:03,200
and that was it uh there you know they

1083
00:45:06,069 --> 00:45:04,560
there was just

1084
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:06,079
other treatments consisted of things

1085
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:08,800
like steam breathing steam and stuff

1086
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:12,800
uh but they forgot about it because

1087
00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:15,680
they couldn't think about it we're not

1088
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:18,400
going to be that way this time

1089
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:22,160
we back in back in the uh

1090
00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:25,760
about a year ago the administration made

1091
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:26,720
the decision

1092
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:30,960
to drop its pandemic task force

1093
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:33,200
on the theory that things like that are

1094
00:45:37,270 --> 00:45:35,040
so unlikely that why should we spend the

1095
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:37,280
money on this task force

1096
00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:39,200
and any number of i'm not blaming one

1097
00:45:43,829 --> 00:45:41,359
administration or another

1098
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:43,839
anyone sailing a country through waters

1099
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:45,520
like this is going to make mistakes and

1100
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:46,079
not just

1101
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:50,560
you know you can't you can't be a

1102
00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:52,240
you can't try to quarterback a thing

1103
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:54,400
like this you just have to hope that

1104
00:46:00,069 --> 00:45:57,599
basically overall we do fine

1105
00:46:00,950 --> 00:46:00,079
but in any case what we didn't

1106
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:00,960
understand

1107
00:46:07,990 --> 00:46:04,480
was that this could a an epidemic

1108
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:08,000
could move so quickly and things

1109
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:10,800
happened in december and january and you

1110
00:46:12,710 --> 00:46:11,119
know

1111
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:12,720
no matter there's this big argument

1112
00:46:16,630 --> 00:46:14,960
going on right now is china responsible

1113
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:16,640
or not

1114
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:20,160
the mike pompeo and president trump are

1115
00:46:24,550 --> 00:46:22,800
saying yeah it came from a lab in china

1116
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:24,560
the intelligence community is saying it

1117
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:26,400
didn't so

1118
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:28,960
right now we have basically no idea what

1119
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:31,920
the truth is and we may never find out

1120
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:34,319
however one thing that we do know that

1121
00:46:39,190 --> 00:46:36,000
was extensively reported

1122
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:39,200
was reported in the new york times is

1123
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:43,520
that 140 000 chinese

1124
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:46,880
came as tourists to the united states

1125
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:50,079
and canada in december

1126
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:53,359
after this virus was known to be a

1127
00:46:55,829 --> 00:46:53,839
problem

1128
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:55,839
in china and a lot of them came from

1129
00:46:59,349 --> 00:46:56,880
wuhan

1130
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:59,359
now they weren't put on planes by a

1131
00:47:03,190 --> 00:47:00,960
sinister's chinese government

1132
00:47:04,150 --> 00:47:03,200
who said hey get it get take this over

1133
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:04,160
there

1134
00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:06,160
they were the wealthy and they got out

1135
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:09,040
of there because they were afraid

1136
00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:12,160
and they landed here on tourist pieces i

1137
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:13,920
remember very well i live in santa

1138
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:14,560
monica and i

1139
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:17,280
i walk every night and i was walking

1140
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:17,599
down

1141
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:20,640
on on uh on our bluff and i

1142
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:23,040
was amazed at all of the chinese

1143
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:24,480
tourists

1144
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:27,440
and so i thought to myself what is going

1145
00:47:29,589 --> 00:47:27,760
on

1146
00:47:31,030 --> 00:47:29,599
is this isn't the time of year they

1147
00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:31,040
usually show up here

1148
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:32,640
and there's too many of them everybody

1149
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:34,640
every other person couple walking past

1150
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:36,720
was speaking chinese

1151
00:47:42,710 --> 00:47:39,440
and so i looked into it and i saw that

1152
00:47:47,349 --> 00:47:42,720
there was this virus reported in wuhan

1153
00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:47,359
and i immediately bought supplies

1154
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:50,240
right i bought gloves and masks and

1155
00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:52,880
lysol and all of it because i figured

1156
00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:56,319
this is coming and you know we were

1157
00:48:00,390 --> 00:47:58,400
blindsided by it anyway i mean i wasn't

1158
00:48:03,990 --> 00:48:00,400
blindsided by it because

1159
00:48:06,309 --> 00:48:04,000
you know i i i'm very i'm very

1160
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:06,319
doomed conscious well you spend your

1161
00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:07,599
life with the visitors and they're

1162
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:08,160
already

1163
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:10,960
they're always doing the doom and gloom

1164
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:11,440
thing

1165
00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:13,680
well you did write super storm so let's

1166
00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:15,680
not and i wrote super storm i mean i'm

1167
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:17,280
i'm this is my mindset

1168
00:48:21,829 --> 00:48:20,160
right it's not their fault right it's my

1169
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:21,839
mindset i'm not going to blame them for

1170
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:23,200
my mindset

1171
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:24,640
although i think they have the same

1172
00:48:30,790 --> 00:48:27,359
mindset at least the ones i know

1173
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:30,800
do um well let me let me uh

1174
00:48:34,309 --> 00:48:32,640
kind of set up for when we come back

1175
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:34,319
after the break

1176
00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:39,359
and and it's this we have heard

1177
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:42,319
many many many times uh from you and

1178
00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:43,440
others

1179
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:47,280
uh the very consistent message

1180
00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:51,280
from uh our e.t brothers and sisters out

1181
00:48:55,990 --> 00:48:52,880
there which is

1182
00:48:57,910 --> 00:48:56,000
you guys ain't ready you guys need to

1183
00:48:58,150 --> 00:48:57,920
make some changes you guys need to grow

1184
00:49:01,349 --> 00:48:58,160
up

1185
00:49:02,069 --> 00:49:01,359
you guys need to uh uh you know go back

1186
00:49:04,390 --> 00:49:02,079
to your room

1187
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:04,400
and and stay there for a while you're

1188
00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:05,119
grounded

1189
00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:07,200
well look right i'm sick and tired of

1190
00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:09,200
that carping but i'm very well aware of

1191
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:09,440
it

1192
00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:11,280
that's right that's right and i happen

1193
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:13,280
to have a better opinion of us than that

1194
00:49:16,470 --> 00:49:14,960
and that's talk about that when we come

1195
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:16,480
back exactly

1196
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:19,680
and is this something that um

1197
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:22,720
is you know our reaction

1198
00:49:26,069 --> 00:49:25,200
to how we treat each other through this

1199
00:49:29,910 --> 00:49:26,079
crisis

1200
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:29,920
is this something that is being observed

1201
00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:30,640
oh

1202
00:49:34,390 --> 00:49:33,359
well yeah i mean i've i've been heavily

1203
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:34,400
involved in that

1204
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:36,880
and i i know i've learned a lot of

1205
00:49:40,390 --> 00:49:37,599
things

1206
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:40,400
i am not going to say that they told me

1207
00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:40,960
because that

1208
00:49:45,030 --> 00:49:43,760
is not how it works but i have this

1209
00:49:48,069 --> 00:49:45,040
implant in my ear

1210
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:48,079
i know how to use it and i have

1211
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:51,440
used it to gain insight

1212
00:49:55,030 --> 00:49:53,440
into this and i think i've gained some

1213
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:55,040
strong useful

1214
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:58,800
valuable insight it's nowhere

1215
00:50:01,829 --> 00:50:01,280
near it's not off the wall at all it's

1216
00:50:04,309 --> 00:50:01,839
very

1217
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:04,319
solid and we can get into that because

1218
00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:06,880
i've i've researched it very deeply

1219
00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:10,160
and there are ways of

1220
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:13,359
fixing this and in fact

1221
00:50:16,470 --> 00:50:15,839
go ahead no well that was my question is

1222
00:50:19,829 --> 00:50:16,480
have you been

1223
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:19,839
sharing uh what you've learned well

1224
00:50:26,870 --> 00:50:23,520
yeah on my website and with some

1225
00:50:29,430 --> 00:50:26,880
medical people i know or who are doing

1226
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:29,440
research in this area yes and they know

1227
00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:31,359
perfectly well that the information's

1228
00:50:33,270 --> 00:50:31,839
coming

1229
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:33,280
the source of the information they're

1230
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:35,359
fine with that they'll use it or not use

1231
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:36,960
it as they see fit

1232
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:39,760
but yeah but the last two blog entries

1233
00:50:42,790 --> 00:50:40,000
are

1234
00:50:43,109 --> 00:50:42,800
basically a reflection of what i learned

1235
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:43,119
now

1236
00:50:48,630 --> 00:50:46,640
country in whitley's journal

1237
00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:48,640
somebody just tweeted and i wanted to

1238
00:50:53,270 --> 00:50:50,720
share this with you hey jimmy

1239
00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:53,280
please thank whitley for his dreamland

1240
00:50:57,349 --> 00:50:54,800
meditations

1241
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:57,359
so oh yeah i do that every thursday

1242
00:51:01,829 --> 00:50:58,480
night

1243
00:51:04,870 --> 00:51:01,839
live free on youtube

1244
00:51:07,829 --> 00:51:04,880
and it's a meditation designed

1245
00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:07,839
to calm you and strengthen you from

1246
00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:08,960
within

1247
00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:11,680
and it's good it works well a lot of

1248
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:12,160
people

1249
00:51:17,990 --> 00:51:15,440
are benefiting from it do you uh

1250
00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:18,000
i'm i'm not making light because i do it

1251
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:18,720
do you burn

1252
00:51:26,950 --> 00:51:22,240
sage candles do that sort of thing

1253
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:26,960
uh no i'm much too dangerous with fire i

1254
00:51:30,309 --> 00:51:29,599
annie annie liked to burn sage but she

1255
00:51:31,589 --> 00:51:30,319
wouldn't let me

1256
00:51:33,910 --> 00:51:31,599
near it because she said quickly

1257
00:51:36,069 --> 00:51:33,920
everything you touch turns

1258
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:36,079
the sage falls apart the rug catches on

1259
00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:37,280
fire it's

1260
00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:40,319
too dangerous and she's right

1261
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:43,119
so no i i don't it's not i don't feel a

1262
00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:44,160
need to

1263
00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:47,200
i feel i feel very i don't feel

1264
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:48,079
necessarily

1265
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:56,870
at peace with my my life in other words

1266
00:52:00,710 --> 00:51:59,520
if i get this i get it i'm not going to

1267
00:52:02,390 --> 00:52:00,720
go out and look for it

1268
00:52:04,069 --> 00:52:02,400
right but if i get it then i'm going to

1269
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:04,079
live with that or not

1270
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:06,960
depending on what happens but i'm not

1271
00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:07,440
gonna

1272
00:52:13,829 --> 00:52:10,720
i'm not and and in terms of

1273
00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:13,839
protecting myself against this the the

1274
00:52:17,430 --> 00:52:15,760
the other level of reality i've lived

1275
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:17,440
with it all the time in my life it's in

1276
00:52:21,990 --> 00:52:18,960
my life every day

1277
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:22,000
every night so no i don't feel in the

1278
00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:22,559
least

1279
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:25,280
a need to protect myself you know it's

1280
00:52:29,910 --> 00:52:26,400
part of my life

1281
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:29,920
and for me i don't know the ceremony

1282
00:52:34,470 --> 00:52:32,880
behind sage there are plenty out there

1283
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:34,480
that do but i don't

1284
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:37,200
i just like the smell of it and i feel

1285
00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:38,240
that

1286
00:52:44,710 --> 00:52:42,000
i am doing something right

1287
00:52:45,990 --> 00:52:44,720
in doing it and i know that that's i

1288
00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:46,000
mean it's nothing wrong with

1289
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:48,079
it clearly now it smells good it's not

1290
00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:49,119
gonna it's not it's

1291
00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:50,960
it's not like vaping or something it's

1292
00:52:54,710 --> 00:52:53,040
nice yeah yeah exactly

1293
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:54,720
well you know it's just like weed you

1294
00:52:59,270 --> 00:52:56,960
know i'll burn wheat i don't smoke it

1295
00:53:00,150 --> 00:52:59,280
but i'll just stink up the house with it

1296
00:53:02,069 --> 00:53:00,160
i'm just kidding

1297
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:02,079
whitley just kidding that's where you're

1298
00:53:06,950 --> 00:53:03,359
supposed to insert the

1299
00:53:11,430 --> 00:53:09,750
whitley strieber is our guest whitley

1300
00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:11,440
let's take our break right here when we

1301
00:53:14,549 --> 00:53:12,640
come back we're going to go

1302
00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:14,559
straight to it we're going to start

1303
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:16,960
discussing the visitors and

1304
00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:18,960
i got a couple questions in here that

1305
00:53:22,069 --> 00:53:20,480
popped up in twitter for whitley i'll

1306
00:53:23,589 --> 00:53:22,079
get to those two as well

1307
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:23,599
this is fade to black i'm your host

1308
00:53:27,030 --> 00:53:25,119
jimmy church tonight

1309
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:27,040
whitley strieber on the game changer

1310
00:53:30,630 --> 00:53:28,960
network and kgra

1311
00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:30,640
the planet you can follow me on twitter

1312
00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:32,720
at jchurchradio you can also follow

1313
00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:34,400
whitley whitley strieber and

1314
00:53:44,020 --> 00:53:37,440
those links are up in our twitter feed

1315
00:53:44,030 --> 00:53:54,829
[Music]

1316
00:54:00,150 --> 00:53:56,570
so

1317
00:54:01,750 --> 00:54:00,160
[Music]

1318
00:54:03,190 --> 00:54:01,760
all right welcome back fade to black i'm

1319
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:03,200
your host jimmy church i guess tonight

1320
00:54:07,750 --> 00:54:04,960
whitney streamer

1321
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:07,760
and right before the break i want to

1322
00:54:11,349 --> 00:54:08,319
pick up

1323
00:54:12,230 --> 00:54:11,359
where we left off and whitley you

1324
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:12,240
mentioned

1325
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:14,720
the implant and and so i want to get to

1326
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:16,880
the foundation of the visitors for those

1327
00:54:20,390 --> 00:54:18,000
out there that

1328
00:54:21,349 --> 00:54:20,400
don't may not know what we're about to

1329
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:21,359
discuss

1330
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:23,200
uh but getting to the implant really

1331
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:24,720
quick sarah

1332
00:54:27,990 --> 00:54:27,280
just tweeted out she said can you remind

1333
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:28,000
us again

1334
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:31,359
which ear the implant is

1335
00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:35,280
uh behind it's in my in the

1336
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:38,319
outer part of my left ear

1337
00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:41,200
in the toward just up just above the top

1338
00:54:45,750 --> 00:54:42,079
of the

1339
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:45,760
ear

1340
00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:51,119
and it's been in 1994

1341
00:54:55,349 --> 00:54:53,520
at night it was put in in 1989 i was

1342
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:55,359
awake when it happened i saw the people

1343
00:54:58,870 --> 00:54:56,720
they were not aliens they

1344
00:55:00,870 --> 00:54:58,880
people who came in and did it two of

1345
00:55:01,990 --> 00:55:00,880
them a man and a woman i could not stop

1346
00:55:06,069 --> 00:55:02,000
them

1347
00:55:08,789 --> 00:55:06,079
and they did it and in 1994 there was an

1348
00:55:09,990 --> 00:55:08,799
attempt made to take it out when the

1349
00:55:13,829 --> 00:55:10,000
doctor type

1350
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:13,839
opened up the little a little incision

1351
00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:16,960
he saw a white disk

1352
00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:20,160
and when he touched it to try to pull it

1353
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:20,960
out

1354
00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:23,760
it moved on its own down into my earlobe

1355
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:25,599
through under the skin

1356
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:28,640
and got away from him it scared him

1357
00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:29,359
because he was

1358
00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:32,640
not expecting that he he

1359
00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:33,920
as far as he was concerned he was

1360
00:55:38,069 --> 00:55:35,760
removing his cyst

1361
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:38,079
he had not been fully informed i should

1362
00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:38,960
have perhaps been

1363
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:42,079
a little bit more open with him anyway

1364
00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:43,680
he pulled out of course because there's

1365
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:45,200
nothing he could do he said mr street

1366
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:47,520
i'm gonna have to take your ear off i

1367
00:55:52,950 --> 00:55:49,920
said well we can't do that and

1368
00:55:55,030 --> 00:55:52,960
he sewed it up and two days later

1369
00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:55,040
it went back up into the place where it

1370
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:57,440
is now

1371
00:56:03,270 --> 00:56:00,000
a little nick of it was taken off as it

1372
00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:03,280
moved away from his scalpel and sent to

1373
00:56:10,549 --> 00:56:06,799
a research laboratory and a rather

1374
00:56:13,829 --> 00:56:10,559
a um first to a

1375
00:56:16,150 --> 00:56:13,839
to a lab a regular

1376
00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:16,160
medical lab and they observed that it

1377
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:16,880
had

1378
00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:20,240
it was a metallic base with

1379
00:56:24,309 --> 00:56:22,400
what they described as protonation cilia

1380
00:56:26,789 --> 00:56:24,319
coming out of it

1381
00:56:28,549 --> 00:56:26,799
and then it was taken to southwest

1382
00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:28,559
research and

1383
00:56:32,230 --> 00:56:31,440
allegedly lost and i never heard from

1384
00:56:35,430 --> 00:56:32,240
about it again

1385
00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:35,440
but the rest of it came back and

1386
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:37,280
in the pa in the old days every once in

1387
00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:38,960
a while that my ear would turn red and

1388
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:41,040
get very hot and

1389
00:56:44,390 --> 00:56:43,040
it would be apparently transmitting

1390
00:56:49,270 --> 00:56:44,400
something and i had no

1391
00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:49,280
idea how to use it what it was there for

1392
00:56:52,789 --> 00:56:51,200
i used to annie used to say it's not

1393
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:52,799
probably not a tracking device because

1394
00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:54,079
nobody from

1395
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:55,520
arcturus is going to take care of

1396
00:56:58,150 --> 00:56:56,720
whether or not you're heading down to

1397
00:57:00,870 --> 00:56:58,160
the 7-11

1398
00:57:01,349 --> 00:57:00,880
and you know that's i couldn't agree

1399
00:57:05,109 --> 00:57:01,359
with

1400
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:05,119
her more anyway in 2015 annie passed

1401
00:57:09,510 --> 00:57:06,319
away

1402
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:09,520
and in in august and in

1403
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:12,720
october i began to notice there was a

1404
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:13,440
sort of

1405
00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:16,480
neatly sneak slit in my right

1406
00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:19,760
eye in the in my field of vision and

1407
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:23,119
words were passing through it very

1408
00:57:29,349 --> 00:57:26,640
quickly quicker than i could read them

1409
00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:29,359
and over the years i have learned how

1410
00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:31,280
this works

1411
00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:34,960
it is a mnemonic device that means it

1412
00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:35,760
assists

1413
00:57:42,069 --> 00:57:38,880
memory it is not a mind control

1414
00:57:45,349 --> 00:57:42,079
device what it does is it pulls things

1415
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:45,359
up from inside my memory

1416
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:48,640
banks in my mind that i would not

1417
00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:51,520
have access to it's like something that

1418
00:57:55,910 --> 00:57:52,079
is a

1419
00:57:59,750 --> 00:57:55,920
it enhances the brain's filing system

1420
00:58:03,190 --> 00:57:59,760
and the result has been i i

1421
00:58:05,750 --> 00:58:03,200
began to figure it out in september

1422
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:05,760
october of 2015

1423
00:58:11,430 --> 00:58:08,559
and i started writing a historical model

1424
00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:11,440
which is called in hitler's house

1425
00:58:18,630 --> 00:58:15,359
and i used the implant i practiced

1426
00:58:22,870 --> 00:58:18,640
and i used the implant to find out all

1427
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:22,880
kinds of unbelievably obscure details

1428
00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:27,119
about hitler and his his life and

1429
00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:29,520
the novel was written by a person who

1430
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:30,160
was

1431
00:58:35,829 --> 00:58:32,640
close to him and becomes realizes he's

1432
00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:35,839
evil and becomes a spy for the allies

1433
00:58:38,710 --> 00:58:36,319
and

1434
00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:38,720
uh but but lives actually lives with

1435
00:58:44,230 --> 00:58:41,440
hitler as a close friend of hitler's

1436
00:58:45,589 --> 00:58:44,240
that's the idea of the novel but you in

1437
00:58:47,990 --> 00:58:45,599
order to do that

1438
00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:48,000
he's got to be able to be writing a

1439
00:58:52,870 --> 00:58:48,799
memoir

1440
00:58:55,270 --> 00:58:52,880
said in the 1970s

1441
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:55,280
but he has to write it it has to sound

1442
00:58:59,670 --> 00:58:56,720
like someone who actually

1443
00:59:01,510 --> 00:58:59,680
lived in that period not just a lot of

1444
00:59:05,589 --> 00:59:01,520
historical research but the

1445
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:05,599
the texture of life has to be immediate

1446
00:59:09,670 --> 00:59:08,160
and it is in the book it is a lot of the

1447
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:09,680
reviewers will say it's like reading

1448
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:10,319
something

1449
00:59:15,109 --> 00:59:12,960
from somebody who was really there and

1450
00:59:18,309 --> 00:59:15,119
that's how the implant works

1451
00:59:22,549 --> 00:59:18,319
now more recently i began to do

1452
00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:22,559
more serious research with it and i used

1453
00:59:26,470 --> 00:59:25,040
it in the research for a new world my

1454
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:26,480
new book

1455
00:59:30,829 --> 00:59:29,520
and i used it with the way you you ask

1456
00:59:33,430 --> 00:59:30,839
yourself

1457
00:59:37,990 --> 00:59:33,440
questions and

1458
00:59:40,230 --> 00:59:38,000
the answers kind of fall together

1459
00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:40,240
it's really interesting the way it works

1460
00:59:43,589 --> 00:59:41,920
it doesn't tell you thing it's not

1461
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:43,599
giving you instructions

1462
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:45,200
in other words it's not interrupting

1463
00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:47,280
your independence or your freedom of

1464
00:59:51,829 --> 00:59:49,359
thought or your freedom of will

1465
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:51,839
but it is helping you make those things

1466
00:59:56,230 --> 00:59:52,720
work better

1467
00:59:58,390 --> 00:59:56,240
that's how it works and the

1468
01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:58,400
the visitors which we've discussed many

1469
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:00,720
times on this program but

1470
01:00:05,430 --> 01:00:03,520
as we move forward tonight uh who are

1471
01:00:07,910 --> 01:00:05,440
they

1472
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:07,920
oh that's an easy question to answer i

1473
01:00:12,710 --> 01:00:10,240
have no idea

1474
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:12,720
no i i'm i mean people want to say they

1475
01:00:14,950 --> 01:00:13,440
want to

1476
01:00:16,470 --> 01:00:14,960
like it's something to wrap their

1477
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:16,480
imaginations around and i don't know

1478
01:00:21,349 --> 01:00:18,960
i understand that they wanna wrap their

1479
01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:21,359
imaginations around this mystery

1480
01:00:25,270 --> 01:00:23,680
and think to themselves well it's these

1481
01:00:27,670 --> 01:00:25,280
are beings from

1482
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:27,680
some planet somewhere that someone said

1483
01:00:31,109 --> 01:00:29,200
they've channeled them and they

1484
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:31,119
they're from this planet or that planet

1485
01:00:37,349 --> 01:00:34,160
and they've named this and named that

1486
01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:37,359
but that's not how it works

1487
01:00:40,630 --> 01:00:39,040
something is going on here that's

1488
01:00:42,789 --> 01:00:40,640
extraordinary

1489
01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:42,799
it has as much to do with us as it does

1490
01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:43,839
with them

1491
01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:45,520
but i'll tell you something about it

1492
01:00:50,710 --> 01:00:47,359
that's fascinating

1493
01:00:53,349 --> 01:00:50,720
if you look back over the lore of the

1494
01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:53,359
fairy folk and the gods and the gin and

1495
01:00:58,309 --> 01:00:55,359
all that stuff from

1496
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:58,319
going back into the mists of the past

1497
01:01:03,030 --> 01:00:59,359
you will find

1498
01:01:05,349 --> 01:01:03,040
an awful lot of that lure is very much

1499
01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:05,359
like the ufo close encounter and

1500
01:01:10,390 --> 01:01:06,799
abduction lore

1501
01:01:13,589 --> 01:01:10,400
very much and if you look at

1502
01:01:14,549 --> 01:01:13,599
the way this worked it was kind of kind

1503
01:01:17,990 --> 01:01:14,559
of

1504
01:01:20,870 --> 01:01:18,000
uh knocking along

1505
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:20,880
in the in the it was reached a sort of

1506
01:01:25,349 --> 01:01:23,200
peak in the 19th century but then

1507
01:01:27,270 --> 01:01:25,359
people became more educated and they

1508
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:27,280
began to think that well

1509
01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:29,200
this stuff about these little beings

1510
01:01:32,710 --> 01:01:30,640
can't be true

1511
01:01:34,309 --> 01:01:32,720
and you know there were some hoaxes some

1512
01:01:36,549 --> 01:01:34,319
famous hoaxes

1513
01:01:39,670 --> 01:01:36,559
that that sort of put the kibosh on the

1514
01:01:43,190 --> 01:01:39,680
whole thing and it was kind of forgotten

1515
01:01:47,430 --> 01:01:43,200
then we began to have these wars

1516
01:01:49,510 --> 01:01:47,440
and during world war ii

1517
01:01:50,710 --> 01:01:49,520
these strange lights that were called

1518
01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:50,720
foo fighters began

1519
01:01:56,309 --> 01:01:54,000
showing up in in over germany and being

1520
01:01:58,549 --> 01:01:56,319
observed by the allies

1521
01:02:00,390 --> 01:01:58,559
and after the war it became clear that

1522
01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:00,400
they were not a german secret weapon

1523
01:02:06,470 --> 01:02:02,880
that they were something unknown

1524
01:02:10,390 --> 01:02:06,480
then we dropped the atomic bomb

1525
01:02:12,870 --> 01:02:10,400
and in 1947 all of a sudden

1526
01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:12,880
this same presence that had actually

1527
01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:14,559
probably been with us from the beginning

1528
01:02:19,670 --> 01:02:16,000
of time

1529
01:02:22,990 --> 01:02:19,680
ramped up and became a huge

1530
01:02:25,910 --> 01:02:23,000
what it is now a huge

1531
01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:25,920
worldwide phenomenon and an

1532
01:02:33,589 --> 01:02:29,359
incredible mystery and

1533
01:02:36,230 --> 01:02:33,599
that we know there is someone there

1534
01:02:36,789 --> 01:02:36,240
and that's where we are and i think they

1535
01:02:39,829 --> 01:02:36,799
ramped

1536
01:02:41,190 --> 01:02:39,839
this up because they began to think we

1537
01:02:44,069 --> 01:02:41,200
were in some kind of

1538
01:02:45,270 --> 01:02:44,079
trouble i mean we're dropping a bombs on

1539
01:02:47,510 --> 01:02:45,280
each other we're killing

1540
01:02:48,470 --> 01:02:47,520
millions and millions of our young

1541
01:02:50,150 --> 01:02:48,480
people

1542
01:02:52,309 --> 01:02:50,160
in these wars of course there's

1543
01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:52,319
something wrong right

1544
01:02:57,510 --> 01:02:55,680
and i think they're concerned now and

1545
01:02:59,829 --> 01:02:57,520
they're very concerned and and to be

1546
01:03:00,230 --> 01:02:59,839
clear the other interesting part about

1547
01:03:02,630 --> 01:03:00,240
this

1548
01:03:03,510 --> 01:03:02,640
maybe even the most most interesting

1549
01:03:05,510 --> 01:03:03,520
part

1550
01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:05,520
is that the germans were observing the

1551
01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:07,440
foo fighters too and they thought it was

1552
01:03:11,430 --> 01:03:08,160
us

1553
01:03:12,309 --> 01:03:11,440
right right you know there's there's

1554
01:03:16,069 --> 01:03:12,319
been

1555
01:03:18,630 --> 01:03:16,079
amount of energy

1556
01:03:20,390 --> 01:03:18,640
that was being put out by that light

1557
01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:20,400
could not have been

1558
01:03:23,990 --> 01:03:22,079
been anything that could be built at

1559
01:03:25,829 --> 01:03:24,000
that time by either side and this

1560
01:03:26,870 --> 01:03:25,839
business about german flying saucers and

1561
01:03:28,950 --> 01:03:26,880
so forth

1562
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:28,960
is interesting entertainment but that's

1563
01:03:33,349 --> 01:03:30,000
all

1564
01:03:33,750 --> 01:03:33,359
the uh there's another uh point to this

1565
01:03:36,870 --> 01:03:33,760
that

1566
01:03:39,190 --> 01:03:36,880
uh i i need to touch upon uh not only

1567
01:03:42,230 --> 01:03:39,200
for myself but for the audience because

1568
01:03:43,270 --> 01:03:42,240
i've heard you uh reference and and

1569
01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:43,280
speak about

1570
01:03:50,549 --> 01:03:47,359
this uh for so long now that i've gone

1571
01:03:50,950 --> 01:03:50,559
through a few different visions of my

1572
01:03:54,470 --> 01:03:50,960
own

1573
01:03:58,150 --> 01:03:54,480
about who the visitors are and

1574
01:04:01,270 --> 01:03:58,160
going back to uh the

1575
01:04:04,230 --> 01:04:01,280
the little blue beings right

1576
01:04:04,789 --> 01:04:04,240
and the possibility of of who they were

1577
01:04:08,789 --> 01:04:04,799
and

1578
01:04:12,309 --> 01:04:08,799
dimension maybe it's after the

1579
01:04:14,950 --> 01:04:12,319
there was that element of it and then i

1580
01:04:17,109 --> 01:04:14,960
often thought about a situation like

1581
01:04:19,589 --> 01:04:17,119
maybe the movie phantasm

1582
01:04:20,630 --> 01:04:19,599
right which is a horror flick sure but

1583
01:04:28,549 --> 01:04:20,640
the

1584
01:04:32,710 --> 01:04:28,559
dimension

1585
01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:32,720
and and i always equated you know

1586
01:04:37,270 --> 01:04:35,440
that in my i resolved it in my own

1587
01:04:38,230 --> 01:04:37,280
mind's eye that maybe whitley's right

1588
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:38,240
here

1589
01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:41,680
and then going to the visitors are we

1590
01:04:48,870 --> 01:04:46,160
talking about is this the same

1591
01:04:50,309 --> 01:04:48,880
the the blue beings the visitors is it

1592
01:04:53,349 --> 01:04:50,319
something physical from

1593
01:04:57,029 --> 01:04:53,359
another dimension and that is uh purely

1594
01:05:00,390 --> 01:04:59,829
uh i don't think it's you know i think

1595
01:05:03,829 --> 01:05:00,400
it's

1596
01:05:06,549 --> 01:05:03,839
that's ever happens when i think

1597
01:05:07,109 --> 01:05:06,559
sure i think that there are a number of

1598
01:05:10,150 --> 01:05:07,119
elements

1599
01:05:13,589 --> 01:05:10,160
involved in it and

1600
01:05:14,870 --> 01:05:13,599
we make a big mistake by assuming that

1601
01:05:17,349 --> 01:05:14,880
all of this strange stuff

1602
01:05:18,069 --> 01:05:17,359
is has the same origins somehow it's the

1603
01:05:20,470 --> 01:05:18,079
same thing

1604
01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:20,480
exactly it isn't right i think that our

1605
01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:21,280
own dead

1606
01:05:26,789 --> 01:05:24,480
play a huge role in this i know annie

1607
01:05:27,910 --> 01:05:26,799
does in my life and in the lives of many

1608
01:05:31,270 --> 01:05:27,920
other people

1609
01:05:34,309 --> 01:05:31,280
and she is she is of

1610
01:05:38,309 --> 01:05:34,319
real presence and force in my life

1611
01:05:41,029 --> 01:05:38,319
to this day uh and not only her but

1612
01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:41,039
many people from the other side she's

1613
01:05:45,589 --> 01:05:41,920
she has

1614
01:05:47,990 --> 01:05:45,599
her ability to communicate with me

1615
01:05:49,750 --> 01:05:48,000
and to convince me very skillfully that

1616
01:05:50,309 --> 01:05:49,760
it really was her and that's all in the

1617
01:05:54,069 --> 01:05:50,319
book

1618
01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:54,079
after life revolution uh opened the door

1619
01:05:58,470 --> 01:05:56,079
because now i know that's possible i

1620
01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:58,480
i and and therefore there's others as

1621
01:06:02,870 --> 01:05:59,760
well

1622
01:06:04,789 --> 01:06:02,880
and the oh by the way i'm going to say

1623
01:06:06,150 --> 01:06:04,799
something here people are thinking well

1624
01:06:07,670 --> 01:06:06,160
why don't they tell you what's going to

1625
01:06:09,910 --> 01:06:07,680
happen to us

1626
01:06:11,430 --> 01:06:09,920
and annie said a very interesting thing

1627
01:06:16,069 --> 01:06:11,440
to me

1628
01:06:20,470 --> 01:06:18,150
really communicating her with her very

1629
01:06:23,670 --> 01:06:20,480
fully that two things

1630
01:06:24,309 --> 01:06:23,680
one is that she said it looks like

1631
01:06:27,510 --> 01:06:24,319
you're all

1632
01:06:30,789 --> 01:06:27,520
intentionally ignoring us

1633
01:06:33,190 --> 01:06:30,799
and she also said

1634
01:06:36,630 --> 01:06:33,200
we do tell you what we know of the

1635
01:06:38,789 --> 01:06:36,640
future but you can't hear us

1636
01:06:40,150 --> 01:06:38,799
and i think those are true statements

1637
01:06:42,950 --> 01:06:40,160
both of them

1638
01:06:44,309 --> 01:06:42,960
because we're here living in the time

1639
01:06:47,510 --> 01:06:44,319
stream

1640
01:06:49,990 --> 01:06:47,520
we are living in time and we're not

1641
01:06:51,990 --> 01:06:50,000
meant to live outside of time and when

1642
01:06:52,870 --> 01:06:52,000
we try to do that and to peak at the

1643
01:06:55,190 --> 01:06:52,880
future

1644
01:06:56,950 --> 01:06:55,200
you don't know what you may see you may

1645
01:06:57,990 --> 01:06:56,960
see your own imagination you may see

1646
01:06:59,910 --> 01:06:58,000
something real

1647
01:07:01,750 --> 01:06:59,920
you can't tell because that's not how

1648
01:07:03,430 --> 01:07:01,760
we're made

1649
01:07:05,430 --> 01:07:03,440
so they may be telling us everything

1650
01:07:05,910 --> 01:07:05,440
that we want to know but we can't hear

1651
01:07:09,029 --> 01:07:05,920
them

1652
01:07:13,029 --> 01:07:09,039
because of what we are okay

1653
01:07:16,230 --> 01:07:13,039
so exactly so back to the process here

1654
01:07:17,510 --> 01:07:16,240
yeah okay there's so our dead are

1655
01:07:20,150 --> 01:07:17,520
involved in this

1656
01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:20,160
and they have been forever but we're

1657
01:07:23,430 --> 01:07:20,640
just

1658
01:07:24,069 --> 01:07:23,440
now beginning to realize that it's real

1659
01:07:27,589 --> 01:07:24,079
and it's

1660
01:07:30,470 --> 01:07:27,599
that's part of

1661
01:07:31,589 --> 01:07:30,480
the universe they are there is an

1662
01:07:33,670 --> 01:07:31,599
afterlife

1663
01:07:35,829 --> 01:07:33,680
and there are people living in it and

1664
01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:35,839
they are very very different from what

1665
01:07:39,349 --> 01:07:37,680
they were when they were alive make no

1666
01:07:44,710 --> 01:07:39,359
mistake about that

1667
01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:44,720
two there are apparently aliens here too

1668
01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:48,240
i think that they don't have

1669
01:07:52,390 --> 01:07:50,400
the same veil between the worlds that we

1670
01:07:55,430 --> 01:07:52,400
do i do not think that they are

1671
01:07:57,829 --> 01:07:55,440
as attached to time as we are

1672
01:07:59,750 --> 01:07:57,839
i think they are living looking into

1673
01:08:01,750 --> 01:07:59,760
time from the outside

1674
01:08:04,630 --> 01:08:01,760
much like our dead do but they have

1675
01:08:07,270 --> 01:08:04,640
bodies that and or can have if they wish

1676
01:08:09,109 --> 01:08:07,280
physical bodies that will flow in time

1677
01:08:12,069 --> 01:08:09,119
like we do

1678
01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:12,079
and then there are other entities i

1679
01:08:16,630 --> 01:08:14,319
think there are entities that are

1680
01:08:17,669 --> 01:08:16,640
spiritual entities that are not human uh

1681
01:08:20,709 --> 01:08:17,679
that are

1682
01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:20,719
above that and below that level too

1683
01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:24,400
i think that also that and this is

1684
01:08:28,070 --> 01:08:26,239
one of the most extraordinary things

1685
01:08:31,349 --> 01:08:28,080
that's happened i

1686
01:08:34,309 --> 01:08:31,359
last summer i was at the

1687
01:08:34,630 --> 01:08:34,319
dakota sioux reservation in pine ridge

1688
01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:34,640
and

1689
01:08:38,630 --> 01:08:36,960
i found myself over the three days i was

1690
01:08:42,550 --> 01:08:38,640
there

1691
01:08:45,510 --> 01:08:42,560
when i closed my eyes i was seeing into

1692
01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:45,520
another version of the same place it was

1693
01:08:50,709 --> 01:08:46,960
totally clear

1694
01:08:54,550 --> 01:08:50,719
i mean i could i could lean down at the

1695
01:08:58,229 --> 01:08:54,560
on a sidewalk or on in the grass

1696
01:09:01,749 --> 01:08:58,239
and close my eyes and see another

1697
01:09:02,390 --> 01:09:01,759
detailed version of what i was looking

1698
01:09:04,950 --> 01:09:02,400
at

1699
01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:04,960
with slightly different stones and

1700
01:09:08,229 --> 01:09:06,080
flowers and things

1701
01:09:10,070 --> 01:09:08,239
and then opened my eyes and i would see

1702
01:09:13,269 --> 01:09:10,080
this world again

1703
01:09:14,229 --> 01:09:13,279
it was and when i was driving riding i

1704
01:09:18,070 --> 01:09:14,239
didn't drive

1705
01:09:20,789 --> 01:09:18,080
i was driven around the the roads were

1706
01:09:22,550 --> 01:09:20,799
nicely graded there were modern highways

1707
01:09:25,829 --> 01:09:22,560
there was one on one road and it was

1708
01:09:27,829 --> 01:09:25,839
very nicely done and you know we were

1709
01:09:30,709 --> 01:09:27,839
driving along it but when i closed my

1710
01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:30,719
eyes that road disappeared and i saw

1711
01:09:36,070 --> 01:09:32,719
instead an older road

1712
01:09:40,470 --> 01:09:36,080
that went that went along a track and

1713
01:09:42,709 --> 01:09:40,480
in and when it when we got to a hillside

1714
01:09:43,590 --> 01:09:42,719
the new road was graded right across it

1715
01:09:45,669 --> 01:09:43,600
you just went

1716
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:45,679
over it in a straight line but the old

1717
01:09:51,829 --> 01:09:48,239
road followed the contours of the land

1718
01:09:54,070 --> 01:09:51,839
so it felt like the car was flying

1719
01:09:55,910 --> 01:09:54,080
and it would take in flight because it

1720
01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:55,920
felt like it had left the road

1721
01:09:59,669 --> 01:09:58,560
and it went on for three days and three

1722
01:10:02,229 --> 01:09:59,679
nights

1723
01:10:02,870 --> 01:10:02,239
and i was left thinking i was seeing a

1724
01:10:06,149 --> 01:10:02,880
parallel

1725
01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:06,159
universe right right now what do i

1726
01:10:14,310 --> 01:10:09,760
see on the cover of the

1727
01:10:18,229 --> 01:10:14,320
april 11 to 17th new scientist

1728
01:10:22,709 --> 01:10:18,239
our cosmic lost twin the big bang

1729
01:10:25,910 --> 01:10:22,719
didn't make one universe it made two

1730
01:10:29,590 --> 01:10:25,920
it has been pretty well proved

1731
01:10:32,950 --> 01:10:29,600
that this other universe exists

1732
01:10:34,550 --> 01:10:32,960
right here right now

1733
01:10:36,149 --> 01:10:34,560
isn't that amazing i think that's

1734
01:10:37,910 --> 01:10:36,159
extraordinary yeah

1735
01:10:39,669 --> 01:10:37,920
and so they're going to be people who

1736
01:10:43,270 --> 01:10:39,679
know how to cross back and forth

1737
01:10:44,229 --> 01:10:43,280
right or or by accident or by accident

1738
01:10:46,310 --> 01:10:44,239
too as well

1739
01:10:47,350 --> 01:10:46,320
or by accident well like in the book i

1740
01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:47,360
mentioned these two

1741
01:10:54,149 --> 01:10:50,560
children who showed up in

1742
01:10:56,550 --> 01:10:54,159
medieval england and

1743
01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:56,560
they were clearly i mean the

1744
01:11:00,790 --> 01:10:58,400
descriptions that

1745
01:11:02,149 --> 01:11:00,800
that they left behind of the world they

1746
01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:02,159
had come from

1747
01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:05,280
was the world i saw every detail is

1748
01:11:10,390 --> 01:11:08,320
there it and and even

1749
01:11:12,470 --> 01:11:10,400
it was for example the light wasn't as

1750
01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:12,480
strong in that world

1751
01:11:19,110 --> 01:11:15,679
that is explainable scientifically

1752
01:11:21,510 --> 01:11:19,120
physicists would expect that

1753
01:11:23,270 --> 01:11:21,520
from we what we understand about what

1754
01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:23,280
this world must be

1755
01:11:29,590 --> 01:11:26,400
now we know it's fear

1756
01:11:31,590 --> 01:11:29,600
they probably know that we're here

1757
01:11:33,350 --> 01:11:31,600
so will the twain ever meet is there

1758
01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:33,360
going to be a door opening between the

1759
01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:33,840
worlds

1760
01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:37,120
or is that already true do you think

1761
01:11:42,870 --> 01:11:37,760
that that

1762
01:11:44,790 --> 01:11:42,880
is possibly what the implant is for

1763
01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:44,800
no i don't i think the implant was put

1764
01:11:49,270 --> 01:11:46,800
in by a man named constantine

1765
01:11:51,189 --> 01:11:49,280
rotavey and i will tell you a little bit

1766
01:11:53,430 --> 01:11:51,199
about that

1767
01:11:55,189 --> 01:11:53,440
constant first of all why do i think

1768
01:11:57,990 --> 01:11:55,199
that okay

1769
01:11:59,189 --> 01:11:58,000
a doctor who works very seriously on

1770
01:12:02,229 --> 01:11:59,199
this business

1771
01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:02,239
he's was wanting me to

1772
01:12:08,070 --> 01:12:05,280
get a ct scan of the implant

1773
01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:08,080
and over the years various doctors and

1774
01:12:10,229 --> 01:12:08,400
in

1775
01:12:13,110 --> 01:12:10,239
organizations that take this stuff

1776
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:13,120
seriously and have reason to do so

1777
01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:15,520
have wanted to get their hands on that

1778
01:12:18,950 --> 01:12:17,440
implant obviously

1779
01:12:20,550 --> 01:12:18,960
i've been a little hesitant about

1780
01:12:21,270 --> 01:12:20,560
getting rid of it getting it out because

1781
01:12:24,070 --> 01:12:21,280
any

1782
01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:24,080
who's i trust with my soul the wisest

1783
01:12:28,870 --> 01:12:25,199
person i ever knew

1784
01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:28,880
always said whitley don't take it out

1785
01:12:33,669 --> 01:12:32,560
learn it the one time i tried to take it

1786
01:12:36,149 --> 01:12:33,679
out we had agreed

1787
01:12:36,709 --> 01:12:36,159
you will never try this again i think

1788
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:36,719
she knew

1789
01:12:40,790 --> 01:12:38,320
more about this stuff than she was

1790
01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:40,800
saying she knew darn well it wasn't

1791
01:12:45,510 --> 01:12:42,159
going to come out

1792
01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:45,520
she was not worried about that anyway

1793
01:12:55,430 --> 01:12:52,149
i i took the cat scan but two days

1794
01:12:58,790 --> 01:12:55,440
before i took the cat scan of my ear

1795
01:13:01,189 --> 01:12:58,800
the um these became a knock at the door

1796
01:13:02,390 --> 01:13:01,199
at four o'clock in the morning now do

1797
01:13:03,830 --> 01:13:02,400
you normally

1798
01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:03,840
answer a knock on the door at four

1799
01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:05,280
o'clock in the morning of course not

1800
01:13:09,110 --> 01:13:06,719
neither do i

1801
01:13:11,750 --> 01:13:09,120
but i did answer this because i was

1802
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:11,760
already in an altered state

1803
01:13:15,430 --> 01:13:14,719
i opened the door and there were two men

1804
01:13:17,350 --> 01:13:15,440
there

1805
01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:17,360
one of them i have known a long time

1806
01:13:21,990 --> 01:13:19,360
i've seen him many times

1807
01:13:24,310 --> 01:13:22,000
the other one i did not know or at least

1808
01:13:26,470 --> 01:13:24,320
i don't remember

1809
01:13:28,470 --> 01:13:26,480
and i knew immediately this was an

1810
01:13:29,669 --> 01:13:28,480
unusual experience let me put it that

1811
01:13:31,830 --> 01:13:29,679
way

1812
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:31,840
and i let them in of course because i

1813
01:13:35,189 --> 01:13:33,600
wanted the experience whatever it was

1814
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:35,199
going to be

1815
01:13:39,270 --> 01:13:37,199
uh especially if they took me to some

1816
01:13:40,390 --> 01:13:39,280
cool place like in a ufo but that did

1817
01:13:44,390 --> 01:13:40,400
not happen

1818
01:13:47,189 --> 01:13:44,400
sadly i let them in

1819
01:13:48,709 --> 01:13:47,199
and they proceeded to explain the

1820
01:13:50,950 --> 01:13:48,719
implant to me

1821
01:13:52,390 --> 01:13:50,960
and how it had been made and what it did

1822
01:13:53,189 --> 01:13:52,400
when i was talking a little bit earlier

1823
01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:53,199
about it

1824
01:13:56,550 --> 01:13:55,040
drawing information from the sort of

1825
01:13:59,110 --> 01:13:56,560
file system in my brain

1826
01:14:00,790 --> 01:13:59,120
that's who i learned it from that night

1827
01:14:03,830 --> 01:14:00,800
how it works

1828
01:14:04,550 --> 01:14:03,840
and the young man who was doing the

1829
01:14:06,870 --> 01:14:04,560
talking

1830
01:14:08,870 --> 01:14:06,880
said the other one was probably there to

1831
01:14:09,510 --> 01:14:08,880
beat me up if i tried to do any any

1832
01:14:14,070 --> 01:14:09,520
anything

1833
01:14:15,990 --> 01:14:14,080
trust me they know i'd steal a ufo and a

1834
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:16,000
heartbeat if i got the chance

1835
01:14:22,790 --> 01:14:19,600
and in case uh

1836
01:14:24,790 --> 01:14:22,800
he was explaining that this man called

1837
01:14:25,910 --> 01:14:24,800
constantine rawdive he pronounced it

1838
01:14:30,470 --> 01:14:25,920
broad

1839
01:14:32,070 --> 01:14:30,480
had devised this thing and it was a

1840
01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:32,080
communicator between the living and the

1841
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:32,880
dead

1842
01:14:36,229 --> 01:14:34,480
which would explain why it started to

1843
01:14:38,149 --> 01:14:36,239
work so well after annie died because

1844
01:14:40,070 --> 01:14:38,159
she was using it on the other side it

1845
01:14:43,350 --> 01:14:40,080
probably still is

1846
01:14:47,030 --> 01:14:43,360
so um okay that

1847
01:14:50,149 --> 01:14:47,040
happened and it ended and

1848
01:14:53,189 --> 01:14:50,159
i did not try anything i

1849
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:53,199
i was not able to really move and we

1850
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:55,199
were sitting together but i could not

1851
01:14:59,510 --> 01:14:57,360
like get up and walk across the room or

1852
01:15:01,830 --> 01:14:59,520
anything like that it was like a

1853
01:15:03,910 --> 01:15:01,840
it was like i had sort of local

1854
01:15:06,390 --> 01:15:03,920
anesthesia you know when you

1855
01:15:07,910 --> 01:15:06,400
when when you've had a spinal or

1856
01:15:09,750 --> 01:15:07,920
something and you can't move

1857
01:15:11,750 --> 01:15:09,760
but you're fine you're you know you're

1858
01:15:13,510 --> 01:15:11,760
completely alert and so forth

1859
01:15:15,030 --> 01:15:13,520
and the you know the doctor's down there

1860
01:15:16,390 --> 01:15:15,040
doing whatever he's doing to your knee

1861
01:15:20,229 --> 01:15:16,400
or whatever

1862
01:15:23,189 --> 01:15:20,239
um that was how i was the state i was in

1863
01:15:24,870 --> 01:15:23,199
but they left and the state immediately

1864
01:15:26,310 --> 01:15:24,880
wore off it wasn't anesthesia it was

1865
01:15:27,590 --> 01:15:26,320
something else they were doing

1866
01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:27,600
because the second they were out of the

1867
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:29,760
house it was over i rushed to the door

1868
01:15:35,270 --> 01:15:32,080
they were still gone

1869
01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:35,280
so i immediately went into my office and

1870
01:15:38,950 --> 01:15:37,199
tried various spellings of this name and

1871
01:15:41,669 --> 01:15:38,960
i soon came up i similar as

1872
01:15:42,870 --> 01:15:41,679
this name looks so familiar and i

1873
01:15:44,709 --> 01:15:42,880
thought wait a minute he was

1874
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:44,719
mispronouncing it that's constantine

1875
01:15:50,830 --> 01:15:45,840
rotavey

1876
01:15:54,229 --> 01:15:50,840
the famous evp electronic voice

1877
01:15:56,070 --> 01:15:54,239
communications uh scientist

1878
01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:56,080
who worked on communicating

1879
01:15:59,590 --> 01:15:57,760
electronically with the dead during his

1880
01:16:02,550 --> 01:15:59,600
lifetime

1881
01:16:04,310 --> 01:16:02,560
and made some extraordinary progress and

1882
01:16:07,430 --> 01:16:04,320
i thought my god

1883
01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:07,440
the guy is still doing it he's working

1884
01:16:11,030 --> 01:16:09,520
from the other side and that's what this

1885
01:16:14,550 --> 01:16:11,040
thing is

1886
01:16:16,950 --> 01:16:14,560
wonderful extraordinary so

1887
01:16:18,550 --> 01:16:16,960
i was talking a few days and this is the

1888
01:16:21,990 --> 01:16:18,560
way this whole experience

1889
01:16:26,149 --> 01:16:22,000
works it is so fundamentally cool

1890
01:16:28,630 --> 01:16:26,159
i was talking to a friend

1891
01:16:30,310 --> 01:16:28,640
who and i was telling him about the slid

1892
01:16:31,830 --> 01:16:30,320
in the eye and stuff

1893
01:16:33,350 --> 01:16:31,840
and he said well you know and this is

1894
01:16:34,390 --> 01:16:33,360
the only other person i know of who's

1895
01:16:38,390 --> 01:16:34,400
ever said this

1896
01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:38,400
i have the same thing i said really

1897
01:16:42,709 --> 01:16:40,719
he said yeah it's been there for years

1898
01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:42,719
and it's words racing past i can't

1899
01:16:45,510 --> 01:16:44,159
really read them and i don't know quite

1900
01:16:48,149 --> 01:16:45,520
what it's about

1901
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:48,159
i might he says he thinks he might have

1902
01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:49,760
an implant but there's no overt

1903
01:16:54,229 --> 01:16:52,640
evidence of it but here's the thing

1904
01:16:57,270 --> 01:16:54,239
about this man that's so

1905
01:16:59,430 --> 01:16:57,280
extraordinary he is an expert

1906
01:17:03,030 --> 01:16:59,440
on constantine rotavein has made a big

1907
01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:03,040
documentary about him

1908
01:17:07,990 --> 01:17:05,840
so you see what you're looking at you're

1909
01:17:09,030 --> 01:17:08,000
looking at technology that's coming into

1910
01:17:12,709 --> 01:17:09,040
our world

1911
01:17:15,990 --> 01:17:12,719
from our own dead you're looking at

1912
01:17:19,270 --> 01:17:16,000
aliens almost certainly uh

1913
01:17:20,149 --> 01:17:19,280
the the tic tac video is probably those

1914
01:17:22,870 --> 01:17:20,159
are

1915
01:17:23,270 --> 01:17:22,880
aliens and there's some some other video

1916
01:17:27,590 --> 01:17:23,280
uh

1917
01:17:29,590 --> 01:17:27,600
here this

1918
01:17:31,669 --> 01:17:29,600
probably authentic ufo of it is plenty

1919
01:17:33,110 --> 01:17:31,679
of authentic ufo video around they are

1920
01:17:35,669 --> 01:17:33,120
real

1921
01:17:38,790 --> 01:17:35,679
and my guess is at least some of that is

1922
01:17:44,630 --> 01:17:42,709
you have these beings like the dark blue

1923
01:17:47,830 --> 01:17:44,640
figures who i think

1924
01:17:51,510 --> 01:17:47,840
are earthly creatures but just

1925
01:17:54,310 --> 01:17:51,520
radically different from us and you have

1926
01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:54,320
you have all kinds of stuff going on

1927
01:17:57,669 --> 01:17:55,840
i mean i think it's wonderful i think

1928
01:18:00,550 --> 01:17:57,679
it's absolutely fascinating

1929
01:18:01,189 --> 01:18:00,560
not all of it's pretty that's for sure i

1930
01:18:04,149 --> 01:18:01,199
mean i got

1931
01:18:05,030 --> 01:18:04,159
beat up plenty in this thing you know i

1932
01:18:07,669 --> 01:18:05,040
got that

1933
01:18:10,229 --> 01:18:07,679
what i politely described to my great

1934
01:18:14,310 --> 01:18:10,239
misfortune as a rectal probe

1935
01:18:16,229 --> 01:18:14,320
uh in in in in december 26 1985 and

1936
01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:16,239
became a laughingstock

1937
01:18:19,910 --> 01:18:17,920
for having been raped and i you know i

1938
01:18:21,430 --> 01:18:19,920
would go on tv and be laughed at about

1939
01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:21,440
that and then the next day go to the

1940
01:18:26,470 --> 01:18:22,880
doctor for treatment

1941
01:18:30,550 --> 01:18:26,480
for the scar tissue of the rape

1942
01:18:33,270 --> 01:18:30,560
so no it's not all pretty well

1943
01:18:34,229 --> 01:18:33,280
it's fascinating it's definitely

1944
01:18:37,110 --> 01:18:34,239
fascinating

1945
01:18:38,390 --> 01:18:37,120
and we're going to take a a quick break

1946
01:18:41,189 --> 01:18:38,400
right here whitley

1947
01:18:42,790 --> 01:18:41,199
and when we come back we'll talk about

1948
01:18:46,390 --> 01:18:42,800
how the communication

1949
01:18:47,110 --> 01:18:46,400
and translation uh has been happening

1950
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:47,120
with you

1951
01:18:51,510 --> 01:18:50,560
and and what you have found out this is

1952
01:18:52,870 --> 01:18:51,520
faded black i

1953
01:18:55,030 --> 01:18:52,880
am your host jimmy church our guest

1954
01:18:57,669 --> 01:18:55,040
tonight whitley strieber

1955
01:18:58,470 --> 01:18:57,679
we're talking about the visitors what is

1956
01:19:01,590 --> 01:18:58,480
going on

1957
01:19:02,229 --> 01:19:01,600
with us our planet and what are we going

1958
01:19:05,110 --> 01:19:02,239
through

1959
01:19:06,870 --> 01:19:05,120
in the future this is fade to black i'm

1960
01:19:08,709 --> 01:19:06,880
murals jimmy church on the game changer

1961
01:19:10,870 --> 01:19:08,719
network and kgra

1962
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:10,880
the planet stay with us we'll be right

1963
01:19:53,510 --> 01:19:49,870
[Music]

1964
01:19:56,790 --> 01:19:55,350
welcome back bay to black i am your host

1965
01:19:57,750 --> 01:19:56,800
jimmy church our guest tonight whitley

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strieber

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and i invite all of you to go and visit

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unknowncountry.com and subscribe

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and whitley's dreamland and unknown

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country

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not only has it been an internet staple

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since

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just about the beginning of the net but

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it's the reason

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that you should have the internet today

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and i've been a part of it for so many

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years now i want to thank you whitley

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for

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everybody out there

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uh go and subscribe to unknown country

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uh and and do it today and go in and

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click on the banners

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over at jimmychurchradio.com whitley

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this um uh this

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communication as you uh

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now i have become to understand how to

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use this

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how how do you initiate

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i'm very curious about that i mean is it

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like

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a remote control on a tv set is it that

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easy for you

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no um in

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as in as of september of 2015 a few

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weeks after annie passed away

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um someone began waking me up

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at three o'clock in the morning i've

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been doing something called the sensing

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exercise

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since 1970 i learned it in the in a

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group called the gergie foundation

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uh based on it's a group that works does

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inter

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armenian mystic called g.r garcia

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who was an extraordinary man and

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a difficult man to understand but he had

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a lot of wisdom

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one of the things he believed was that

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consciousness is not

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only in the brain in the mind that we

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it's not that

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consciousness is in us that we are in

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consciousness and that the

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the body itself is part of consciousness

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and this exercise called the sensing

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exercise is

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very ancient he brought it to the west

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and is a sort of yoga where you place

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your attention on your

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physical sensation of your body and you

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hold it there

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and you let your mind flow on its own

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and

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after i after annie passed away

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the first thing that happened was i was

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at a william henry conference in

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uh nashville at the scarad bennett

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center

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and a lady walked up to me and said

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mr strieber the strangest thing just

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happened annie had been talking

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communicating to me by talking to other

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people

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so they would talk to me because she

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knew i'm much too thick headed to

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to believe that that

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it was her if she talked directly to me

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i would think it was my imagination

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in fact when she told me to take out the

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garbage and do the dishes and stuff i

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usually thought that was my imagination

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when she was alive

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so she was not wrong to do it this way

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anyway the lady comes up and she says mr

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strieber i just had the strangest thing

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happened to me

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i heard your wife's voice and she'd been

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to some of our conferences so she knew

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exactly and listened to

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us on the radio exactly what annie

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sounded like

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say in my ear tell whitley that i can

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see him when he's sitting in the chair

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and i thought my word

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the sensing exercise i do it every night

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when i'm sitting in that chair

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sitting it's a little couch actually and

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i thought well i'm going to do it more

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and so as soon as i got home

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i started really doing it because i i'd

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known for years

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that the visitors responded to it

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they had i think that's how they

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originally

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became interested in me because i did

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this and they realized that they could

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use use this methodology to communicate

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with me

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so then i get home in a week or so later

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somebody starts to wake me up first

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they electrify one of my toes and that

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leap

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o'clock in the morning i figure

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you know i can't explain it so i figured

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it wasn't gout or anything like that and

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i figured it was just some

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some weird thing that happened to me

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then the next night

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having failed to wake up this whole lump

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successfully get him to make the right

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connections

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the night before it's more blunt

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someone that i cannot see grabs my

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right nipple and shakes the dickens out

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of it

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i would have not been surprised if there

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was a footley

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body form in the ceiling at that point i

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mean i got up i woke up right away sure

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once it once again it's three o'clock in

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the morning and i thank you [\h__\h]

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they're after you to do they

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want you oh they're this is the sensing

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issues they used to try to get me to do

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it back in the 90s

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in the in the cabin in upstate new york

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and i did it for a few weeks with them

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then

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at three they really like that and it

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turns out

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uh someone my website's a very social

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website it's got a lot of

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uh there's a there's a free message

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board and there's

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places where the subscribers can comment

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and there's a weekly chat and

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seven o'clock every wednesday night so

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it's a very social very

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oriented website it's a place where

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people can go to be together

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and so one of the people on the website

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said to me you know whitley that

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this is something this is a very ancient

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practice it's a yoga practice and

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i'm gonna try hard to remember the name

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of it because it's

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i had it up here and now it's not coming

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up but

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uh i'll get to it at some point in the

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show but right now i'm just gonna have

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to say that

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and i looked it up and it's something

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that doing this at that

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hour has been part of a certain type of

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yoga because it enables you to

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contact the spirit world more

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fully at a time when everyone's

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mind is quiet around you and they're all

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sleeping

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amazing and they wanted me she i guess

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wanted me to do it then

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and i've been doing it then ever since

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every night i never failed to get up at

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three o'clock in the morning

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and do it i do not set an alarm because

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i want it to be organic

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and the interesting thing is if i don't

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wake up

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they will wake me up at first it was

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very harsh but now it's much more gentle

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there will be a weight that comes down

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on my legs from above and it

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feels very loving and and sweet and

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heavy enough to wake me up and there's a

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slight electricity to it

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or there might someone might uh blow

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like night before yeah night before last

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someone

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blew in my face they used to blow in my

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face a lot

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to to get me and it but it wasn't like

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someone going

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blowing with their lungs it was more

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like they were like kind of pushing the

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air out

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of something it didn't feel normal it

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didn't feel like a normal

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gust of breath so that's what

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that's where i am with that and i do it

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i'm

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heavily heavily involved with them

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somebody just said quad yoga

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no i'll find it in a minute okay okay it

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starts with an h

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folks if that helps now

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is it like uh and we'll get to the the

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substance of

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everything here uh uh right now shortly

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but

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is it is it um is it

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audible is it like morse code

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is it more of a feeling is it is it a

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just one load of of download that you

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have to

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unpack later oh no there's it's they're

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silent they don't

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make any noise at all i mean the only i

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guess you

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well you know there's been some very

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strange stuff in this

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in this place i have to be honest with

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you

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um like i had i got a sleep app i've

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tried

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videotaping this for so many years

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but in fact i tried recently and

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what happened was this the one night

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when i thought there might have been

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someone physical in here

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01:28:54,070 --> 01:28:51,440
i have a nest camera and i thought well

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01:28:54,629 --> 01:28:54,080
finally and i had it on for about a week

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and

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i thought to myself well finally maybe

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i've got something at last

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and so i turned on i looked on the

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01:29:06,629 --> 01:29:05,199
the app and you know it has all these

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moments where you

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something gets recorded etc

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and it i think it was at 12 10

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p.m for am for about an hour

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the camera turned itself off

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01:29:24,629 --> 01:29:23,520
it used to do that a lot and i would

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01:29:26,229 --> 01:29:24,639
always think that

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01:29:28,149 --> 01:29:26,239
there was someone here when that

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01:29:30,310 --> 01:29:28,159
happened and so

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i've the hell with the camera it's

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pointless

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because they turned it there was someone

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here i'm sure and they turn it off they

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make it turn off so that

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they're not seen okay so that makes my

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01:29:44,550 --> 01:29:41,280
life easier i'm so happy

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01:29:47,189 --> 01:29:44,560
um i tried a sleep app

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which what it does is picks up any

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vocalizations and stuff

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01:29:56,310 --> 01:29:52,080
during the night when you're sleeping

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01:29:58,709 --> 01:29:56,320
and amazingly enough for a few nights it

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worked and worked well

2219
01:30:02,550 --> 01:30:02,000
and one of the things that was amazing

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was

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i heard myself talking to people i had

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no

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01:30:13,510 --> 01:30:10,560
idea i was talking to but who i knew

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01:30:15,750 --> 01:30:13,520
well but i did not i do not in this

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01:30:19,270 --> 01:30:15,760
consciousness know that i know them

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01:30:22,310 --> 01:30:19,280
for example one night you hear me go

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01:30:23,830 --> 01:30:22,320
oh and i'm waked up suddenly

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01:30:25,510 --> 01:30:23,840
and you can hear it in my voice it's

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01:30:27,910 --> 01:30:25,520
just oh

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01:30:29,110 --> 01:30:27,920
and then i realized there's someone

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01:30:34,310 --> 01:30:29,120
there and i said

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01:30:37,350 --> 01:30:34,320
you hear me say oh mature

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01:30:40,390 --> 01:30:37,360
and then a second few seconds later

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01:30:42,629 --> 01:30:40,400
i have a vague memory

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01:30:43,430 --> 01:30:42,639
of just it's so vague i can't even say

2236
01:30:46,229 --> 01:30:43,440
what it is

2237
01:30:46,629 --> 01:30:46,239
but i hear my voice say very pleasantly

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01:30:50,790 --> 01:30:46,639
and

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01:30:54,870 --> 01:30:50,800
whatever's about to happen

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i say teach me mature

2241
01:31:00,310 --> 01:30:58,560
i knew who this was this was someone who

2242
01:31:02,870 --> 01:31:00,320
comes to me a lot and whom i

2243
01:31:03,669 --> 01:31:02,880
welcome in my life but in this

2244
01:31:06,709 --> 01:31:03,679
consciousness

2245
01:31:10,790 --> 01:31:06,719
talking to you right now jimmy i have no

2246
01:31:12,629 --> 01:31:10,800
idea wow isn't that incredible yeah it

2247
01:31:16,070 --> 01:31:12,639
is i think it's quite incredible

2248
01:31:20,390 --> 01:31:16,080
it is it is and when

2249
01:31:22,229 --> 01:31:20,400
did did the uh did the communication

2250
01:31:23,669 --> 01:31:22,239
for the lack of a better word whitley i

2251
01:31:26,149 --> 01:31:23,679
apologize but

2252
01:31:27,590 --> 01:31:26,159
uh did the communication with the

2253
01:31:30,390 --> 01:31:27,600
visitors

2254
01:31:31,189 --> 01:31:30,400
uh get amplified and become more

2255
01:31:33,830 --> 01:31:31,199
frequent

2256
01:31:34,870 --> 01:31:33,840
after uh the first of the year when

2257
01:31:37,189 --> 01:31:34,880
certainly

2258
01:31:38,950 --> 01:31:37,199
this planet started to go through some

2259
01:31:41,990 --> 01:31:38,960
pretty rough changes

2260
01:31:43,510 --> 01:31:42,000
well it actually it started like that in

2261
01:31:46,310 --> 01:31:43,520
the fall

2262
01:31:47,590 --> 01:31:46,320
and you know i was i think one of the

2263
01:31:50,709 --> 01:31:47,600
reasons i was so

2264
01:31:52,790 --> 01:31:50,719
attuned to this situation was and

2265
01:31:55,510 --> 01:31:52,800
started buying supplies in december the

2266
01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:55,520
way i did was because i was aware

2267
01:31:59,030 --> 01:31:57,360
without being able to put my finger on

2268
01:32:02,550 --> 01:31:59,040
it that there was something

2269
01:32:04,550 --> 01:32:02,560
up and uh

2270
01:32:05,830 --> 01:32:04,560
i wish i could say that they had warned

2271
01:32:09,110 --> 01:32:05,840
me and that i had

2272
01:32:09,669 --> 01:32:09,120
warned everybody but it just didn't work

2273
01:32:11,750 --> 01:32:09,679
like that

2274
01:32:13,590 --> 01:32:11,760
and it apparently does not work like

2275
01:32:16,709 --> 01:32:13,600
that and i'm not so sure

2276
01:32:18,550 --> 01:32:16,719
that that i'm i think i'm right about

2277
01:32:19,990 --> 01:32:18,560
the fact that we can't see the future

2278
01:32:22,629 --> 01:32:20,000
it's not that they can't but that we

2279
01:32:24,070 --> 01:32:22,639
can't even if we're told

2280
01:32:26,070 --> 01:32:24,080
because we're not meant to it's not the

2281
01:32:30,950 --> 01:32:26,080
way we're built

2282
01:32:33,430 --> 01:32:30,960
anyway yeah i felt uneasy enough to buy

2283
01:32:36,390 --> 01:32:33,440
uh surgical gloves for god's sakes and

2284
01:32:39,030 --> 01:32:36,400
then 95 masks which i had no

2285
01:32:41,430 --> 01:32:39,040
i mean no reason the world to buy but i

2286
01:32:44,310 --> 01:32:41,440
bought a box a couple of boxes of

2287
01:32:44,950 --> 01:32:44,320
the masks and a couple of boxes of the

2288
01:32:46,790 --> 01:32:44,960
of the

2289
01:32:49,430 --> 01:32:46,800
gloves and i was able to give some to my

2290
01:32:51,510 --> 01:32:49,440
family and i wish i had

2291
01:32:54,390 --> 01:32:51,520
made more noise about it but i didn't

2292
01:32:56,550 --> 01:32:54,400
really make a connection

2293
01:32:57,510 --> 01:32:56,560
in other words what i'm telling you is i

2294
01:33:01,110 --> 01:32:57,520
probably was

2295
01:33:02,149 --> 01:33:01,120
told but i could not bring that into my

2296
01:33:05,030 --> 01:33:02,159
conscious mind

2297
01:33:07,030 --> 01:33:05,040
any more than i can tell you who that

2298
01:33:09,510 --> 01:33:07,040
person i just talked about

2299
01:33:10,470 --> 01:33:09,520
who i'm so familiar with and obviously

2300
01:33:13,270 --> 01:33:10,480
enjoy the

2301
01:33:14,070 --> 01:33:13,280
company of enormously i cannot tell you

2302
01:33:16,390 --> 01:33:14,080
a single

2303
01:33:18,149 --> 01:33:16,400
thing about that person who they are

2304
01:33:22,070 --> 01:33:18,159
where they're from what they look like

2305
01:33:24,149 --> 01:33:22,080
anything but believe me i know

2306
01:33:25,590 --> 01:33:24,159
somewhere and i know i know i just can't

2307
01:33:27,830 --> 01:33:25,600
reach it

2308
01:33:29,910 --> 01:33:27,840
so that's kind of where that is i mean i

2309
01:33:31,990 --> 01:33:29,920
would guess i was told and

2310
01:33:33,590 --> 01:33:32,000
couldn't couldn't reach it you know

2311
01:33:34,390 --> 01:33:33,600
what's interesting about the mask and

2312
01:33:37,430 --> 01:33:34,400
the gloves

2313
01:33:38,149 --> 01:33:37,440
uh which we have uh we've got a stock of

2314
01:33:44,709 --> 01:33:38,159
them

2315
01:33:45,830 --> 01:33:44,719
for uh preventing or spreading

2316
01:33:49,270 --> 01:33:45,840
coronavirus

2317
01:33:51,910 --> 01:33:49,280
i wear them so i can go shopping

2318
01:33:54,470 --> 01:33:51,920
yeah well say here i do that i'm 74 and

2319
01:33:56,870 --> 01:33:54,480
so i'm pretty careful because i figure

2320
01:33:58,709 --> 01:33:56,880
you know if i'm going to croak uh from

2321
01:34:00,629 --> 01:33:58,719
coronavirus i'm going to feel like a

2322
01:34:03,030 --> 01:34:00,639
fool because you know i

2323
01:34:04,790 --> 01:34:03,040
i'm not an anti-vaxxer and i'm not a

2324
01:34:06,070 --> 01:34:04,800
person who doesn't believe in it and or

2325
01:34:08,070 --> 01:34:06,080
anything like that i take it very

2326
01:34:11,270 --> 01:34:08,080
seriously and i am trying to

2327
01:34:12,790 --> 01:34:11,280
to protect myself sure so yeah i do i do

2328
01:34:14,229 --> 01:34:12,800
definitely and i don't go out any more

2329
01:34:15,750 --> 01:34:14,239
than i absolutely have to for

2330
01:34:17,270 --> 01:34:15,760
especially not the grocery store and

2331
01:34:19,270 --> 01:34:17,280
stuff now what

2332
01:34:20,790 --> 01:34:19,280
uh i'm going to ask you some specific

2333
01:34:24,310 --> 01:34:20,800
questions uh

2334
01:34:28,470 --> 01:34:24,320
the in this in this communication

2335
01:34:30,390 --> 01:34:28,480
this uh however we want to turn that

2336
01:34:31,669 --> 01:34:30,400
th you brought up something earlier in

2337
01:34:34,870 --> 01:34:31,679
the show and that is

2338
01:34:36,870 --> 01:34:34,880
borders and you know that borders uh

2339
01:34:38,629 --> 01:34:36,880
you know that's a that's a fictitious

2340
01:34:38,950 --> 01:34:38,639
statement there are no walls they look

2341
01:34:40,709 --> 01:34:38,960
like

2342
01:34:42,310 --> 01:34:40,719
borders but they're not borders right

2343
01:34:46,470 --> 01:34:42,320
and it's really

2344
01:34:49,430 --> 01:34:46,480
strange on this planet where

2345
01:34:49,750 --> 01:34:49,440
there are certain parts of this planet

2346
01:34:52,629 --> 01:34:49,760
that

2347
01:34:54,229 --> 01:34:52,639
are really affected and there are others

2348
01:34:57,350 --> 01:34:54,239
that are not

2349
01:35:01,109 --> 01:34:57,360
is that down to in is it the individual

2350
01:35:04,229 --> 01:35:01,119
is it like dna you know what why

2351
01:35:07,910 --> 01:35:04,239
why are we having certain parts

2352
01:35:11,270 --> 01:35:07,920
of of the world you know really affected

2353
01:35:12,629 --> 01:35:11,280
and others which are populated just like

2354
01:35:16,229 --> 01:35:12,639
any place else and

2355
01:35:19,910 --> 01:35:16,239
in some cases heavily but it isn't

2356
01:35:23,430 --> 01:35:19,920
as uh it's not in areas as

2357
01:35:25,910 --> 01:35:23,440
affected why is that well first of all

2358
01:35:28,870 --> 01:35:25,920
it's still too early in the progress of

2359
01:35:30,390 --> 01:35:28,880
this disease to know how the world

2360
01:35:32,149 --> 01:35:30,400
how it's going to play out around the

2361
01:35:36,070 --> 01:35:32,159
world number one

2362
01:35:39,270 --> 01:35:36,080
number two the reason it is hitting the

2363
01:35:42,149 --> 01:35:39,280
developed countries faster and harder

2364
01:35:46,310 --> 01:35:42,159
is that they are much people in these

2365
01:35:49,910 --> 01:35:48,390
they come in into these you know there's

2366
01:35:51,350 --> 01:35:49,920
much more movement

2367
01:35:53,750 --> 01:35:51,360
or there was i mean there's at the

2368
01:35:56,470 --> 01:35:53,760
moment but there was in

2369
01:35:58,790 --> 01:35:56,480
air travel much more air travel like

2370
01:35:59,270 --> 01:35:58,800
between hong kong and london or new york

2371
01:36:06,390 --> 01:35:59,280
or

2372
01:36:08,950 --> 01:36:06,400
travel between hong kong and

2373
01:36:10,070 --> 01:36:08,960
and lagos or kinsasha or somewhere like

2374
01:36:14,790 --> 01:36:10,080
that

2375
01:36:16,870 --> 01:36:14,800
there's not as much reason to go to the

2376
01:36:18,390 --> 01:36:16,880
these countries and so the virus

2377
01:36:21,590 --> 01:36:18,400
fortunately has spread

2378
01:36:24,149 --> 01:36:21,600
more slowly there also it could be

2379
01:36:25,189 --> 01:36:24,159
there's some evidence that it is like

2380
01:36:30,629 --> 01:36:25,199
the

2381
01:36:33,109 --> 01:36:30,639
sensitive that's not entirely clear yet

2382
01:36:35,030 --> 01:36:33,119
but it might turn out that that is the

2383
01:36:38,629 --> 01:36:35,040
case in which case that

2384
01:36:39,510 --> 01:36:38,639
these countries that are in tropical

2385
01:36:42,629 --> 01:36:39,520
areas are

2386
01:36:44,310 --> 01:36:42,639
thank god not going to be so badly hit

2387
01:36:47,109 --> 01:36:44,320
because these this is where their

2388
01:36:50,950 --> 01:36:47,119
populations are just so vulnerable

2389
01:36:55,830 --> 01:36:50,960
you know they have one ventilator

2390
01:36:58,390 --> 01:36:55,840
per 100 000 people in nigeria

2391
01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:58,400
so one thing is very clear in nigeria if

2392
01:37:02,550 --> 01:36:59,199
you get

2393
01:37:04,830 --> 01:37:02,560
coveted and you start to become unable

2394
01:37:08,790 --> 01:37:04,840
to breathe you're gonna die

2395
01:37:11,750 --> 01:37:08,800
period so let's hope they don't get it

2396
01:37:14,070 --> 01:37:11,760
i mean frankly uh but you don't know

2397
01:37:16,709 --> 01:37:14,080
what will happen and also another thing

2398
01:37:17,830 --> 01:37:16,719
reporting is from many parts of the

2399
01:37:20,390 --> 01:37:17,840
world is just

2400
01:37:21,590 --> 01:37:20,400
very minimal i mean you're talking about

2401
01:37:24,629 --> 01:37:21,600
a planet

2402
01:37:26,550 --> 01:37:24,639
which has a fantastic gap

2403
01:37:27,590 --> 01:37:26,560
between the richest and the poorest i

2404
01:37:29,109 --> 01:37:27,600
mean i'm not talking about the

2405
01:37:31,270 --> 01:37:29,119
billionaires i'm talking about

2406
01:37:32,470 --> 01:37:31,280
us we're the richest countries us in

2407
01:37:35,030 --> 01:37:32,480
europe and

2408
01:37:36,870 --> 01:37:35,040
parts of asia but when you know you

2409
01:37:38,550 --> 01:37:36,880
there are plenty of people in this world

2410
01:37:42,550 --> 01:37:38,560
who live in under 200

2411
01:37:43,189 --> 01:37:42,560
a year and yet prices are the same in

2412
01:37:46,550 --> 01:37:43,199
their countries

2413
01:37:47,910 --> 01:37:46,560
as they are here so

2414
01:37:51,430 --> 01:37:47,920
you know those people are living

2415
01:37:54,470 --> 01:37:51,440
extremely minimal lives and they have

2416
01:37:58,070 --> 01:37:54,480
nothing nothing to fall back on

2417
01:38:01,830 --> 01:37:58,080
at all whatsoever now you mentioned

2418
01:38:03,350 --> 01:38:01,840
it sure and there's not going to be any

2419
01:38:04,709 --> 01:38:03,360
reporting about what's going to happen

2420
01:38:07,669 --> 01:38:04,719
what's happening to them we won't even

2421
01:38:09,430 --> 01:38:07,679
know it yeah that's uh that's another

2422
01:38:12,550 --> 01:38:09,440
part for me that

2423
01:38:13,430 --> 01:38:12,560
uh i'm still trying to uh come to grips

2424
01:38:16,470 --> 01:38:13,440
with

2425
01:38:17,830 --> 01:38:16,480
which is i mean testing is needed you

2426
01:38:21,189 --> 01:38:17,840
need to test everybody

2427
01:38:23,510 --> 01:38:21,199
because you need data and and things

2428
01:38:24,470 --> 01:38:23,520
without testing what are you reporting

2429
01:38:27,990 --> 01:38:24,480
on

2430
01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:28,000
in

2431
01:38:31,910 --> 01:38:29,760
then what is it that you are

2432
01:38:34,870 --> 01:38:31,920
establishing everything on rumor

2433
01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:34,880
you can't do that you know it just seems

2434
01:38:37,350 --> 01:38:35,199
like

2435
01:38:39,270 --> 01:38:37,360
everybody on this planet has got to get

2436
01:38:40,070 --> 01:38:39,280
tested everybody i don't think anybody

2437
01:38:41,830 --> 01:38:40,080
should be looked at

2438
01:38:43,510 --> 01:38:41,840
i don't think that's true actually i

2439
01:38:45,270 --> 01:38:43,520
disagree there right i think that

2440
01:38:45,830 --> 01:38:45,280
there's something else that we need to

2441
01:38:48,310 --> 01:38:45,840
do

2442
01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:48,320
what's that what we need to understand

2443
01:38:51,669 --> 01:38:49,360
this better

2444
01:38:52,709 --> 01:38:51,679
and here's exactly what we need to

2445
01:38:55,990 --> 01:38:52,719
understand

2446
01:38:59,430 --> 01:38:56,000
precisely and

2447
01:39:02,310 --> 01:38:59,440
that is there are

2448
01:39:04,390 --> 01:39:02,320
a large number of people who get this

2449
01:39:07,510 --> 01:39:04,400
disease and either don't know it or have

2450
01:39:10,310 --> 01:39:07,520
extremely mild symptoms and it goes away

2451
01:39:12,070 --> 01:39:10,320
without any suggestion of the hospital

2452
01:39:15,669 --> 01:39:12,080
maybe a slight fever nothing

2453
01:39:16,149 --> 01:39:15,679
it's nothing for them you can have two

2454
01:39:19,350 --> 01:39:16,159
people

2455
01:39:21,189 --> 01:39:19,360
35 each of them 35 years old both of

2456
01:39:24,550 --> 01:39:21,199
them perfectly healthy with no

2457
01:39:27,109 --> 01:39:24,560
known underlying conditions

2458
01:39:29,830 --> 01:39:27,119
one of them is devastated and the other

2459
01:39:32,310 --> 01:39:29,840
gets it too and doesn't even know it

2460
01:39:33,990 --> 01:39:32,320
now what is the difference between those

2461
01:39:37,350 --> 01:39:34,000
two people

2462
01:39:40,950 --> 01:39:37,360
this is what we need to understand

2463
01:39:41,910 --> 01:39:40,960
because once we can identify the people

2464
01:39:45,350 --> 01:39:41,920
who are really

2465
01:39:47,350 --> 01:39:45,360
genuinely at risk and that's going to be

2466
01:39:49,030 --> 01:39:47,360
a small number after all

2467
01:39:51,030 --> 01:39:49,040
because you know you're talking about

2468
01:39:52,149 --> 01:39:51,040
the united states a country of 300 plus

2469
01:39:54,790 --> 01:39:52,159
million people

2470
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:54,800
and it did we just recently reached a

2471
01:40:00,149 --> 01:39:56,639
million people

2472
01:40:01,590 --> 01:40:00,159
having this illness that we know of

2473
01:40:03,270 --> 01:40:01,600
and the reason is there's probably

2474
01:40:04,709 --> 01:40:03,280
millions more who had it and didn't even

2475
01:40:07,830 --> 01:40:04,719
know it

2476
01:40:09,030 --> 01:40:07,840
who are the people who get the symptoms

2477
01:40:11,109 --> 01:40:09,040
severe symptoms

2478
01:40:12,310 --> 01:40:11,119
and and they're laid up by this and even

2479
01:40:15,430 --> 01:40:12,320
hospitalized or

2480
01:40:19,030 --> 01:40:15,440
even die why are they what is

2481
01:40:20,390 --> 01:40:19,040
different about them this is what we

2482
01:40:23,590 --> 01:40:20,400
need to know

2483
01:40:26,229 --> 01:40:23,600
it's something to do with their genes

2484
01:40:28,709 --> 01:40:26,239
almost certainly there's something in

2485
01:40:30,070 --> 01:40:28,719
their genetic makeup or the structure of

2486
01:40:35,109 --> 01:40:30,080
their cells

2487
01:40:37,109 --> 01:40:35,119
like there is a um there's a receptor on

2488
01:40:38,149 --> 01:40:37,119
cells in the lungs called an ace2

2489
01:40:39,910 --> 01:40:38,159
receptor

2490
01:40:41,430 --> 01:40:39,920
is on a lot of cells actually in

2491
01:40:43,990 --> 01:40:41,440
different parts of the body

2492
01:40:44,709 --> 01:40:44,000
and this receptor is what the covet

2493
01:40:49,990 --> 01:40:44,719
virus

2494
01:40:52,149 --> 01:40:50,000
attaches to now does this receptor

2495
01:40:53,109 --> 01:40:52,159
is it different in certain people are

2496
01:40:55,750 --> 01:40:53,119
they do they

2497
01:40:56,470 --> 01:40:55,760
are they born with more of them what is

2498
01:40:59,350 --> 01:40:56,480
it

2499
01:41:00,870 --> 01:40:59,360
that causes certain people to have this

2500
01:41:04,229 --> 01:41:00,880
once we can

2501
01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:04,239
and say

2502
01:41:09,750 --> 01:41:07,119
yep you are at risk and to someone else

2503
01:41:13,590 --> 01:41:09,760
no you're not at serious risk

2504
01:41:15,430 --> 01:41:13,600
we're we're golden we can open up safely

2505
01:41:18,310 --> 01:41:15,440
right and what's happening in this

2506
01:41:21,830 --> 01:41:18,320
country now is very understandable

2507
01:41:25,270 --> 01:41:21,840
people are i mean how does it feel i'm

2508
01:41:26,629 --> 01:41:25,280
i don't have an immediate problem with

2509
01:41:29,750 --> 01:41:26,639
like

2510
01:41:32,390 --> 01:41:29,760
my rent or anything but i have friends

2511
01:41:34,070 --> 01:41:32,400
who can't pay right who can't pay their

2512
01:41:37,430 --> 01:41:34,080
credit cards who can't pay their rent

2513
01:41:41,109 --> 01:41:37,440
who can't buy food lots of friends

2514
01:41:41,750 --> 01:41:41,119
and hey those people are not gonna sit

2515
01:41:45,189 --> 01:41:41,760
there

2516
01:41:49,350 --> 01:41:45,199
and die they're going to take

2517
01:41:50,229 --> 01:41:49,360
the risk and we have to find out we have

2518
01:41:53,350 --> 01:41:50,239
to

2519
01:41:56,390 --> 01:41:53,360
concentrate on minimizing that

2520
01:41:58,229 --> 01:41:56,400
risk and we can do it and there are

2521
01:42:02,470 --> 01:41:58,239
scientific groups working on that

2522
01:42:05,750 --> 01:42:02,480
right now and but they have to be

2523
01:42:08,870 --> 01:42:05,760
we have to understand very clearly this

2524
01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:08,880
is the correct focus this is how we

2525
01:42:12,950 --> 01:42:10,560
should go about it

2526
01:42:15,270 --> 01:42:12,960
because once we have those people that

2527
01:42:18,310 --> 01:42:15,280
cohort of people identified

2528
01:42:20,629 --> 01:42:18,320
then we can move ahead safely and

2529
01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:20,639
the the danger of doing it is it's

2530
01:42:23,189 --> 01:42:22,880
happening naturally now and i can't i

2531
01:42:26,149 --> 01:42:23,199
would

2532
01:42:27,109 --> 01:42:26,159
never blame anyone who goes out there

2533
01:42:29,350 --> 01:42:27,119
and demonstrates

2534
01:42:30,870 --> 01:42:29,360
or goes back to work because i

2535
01:42:32,629 --> 01:42:30,880
understand perfectly where they're

2536
01:42:36,149 --> 01:42:32,639
coming from i surely do

2537
01:42:40,310 --> 01:42:36,159
i do we all do absolutely but

2538
01:42:42,629 --> 01:42:40,320
but we have to be able

2539
01:42:44,870 --> 01:42:42,639
to identify these people and the reason

2540
01:42:47,750 --> 01:42:44,880
it's dangerous now

2541
01:42:48,149 --> 01:42:47,760
is because it's probably going to cause

2542
01:43:06,229 --> 01:42:48,159
a

2543
01:43:08,709 --> 01:43:06,239
close down

2544
01:43:10,149 --> 01:43:08,719
and and lay off doctors and nurses at

2545
01:43:13,510 --> 01:43:10,159
the time like this

2546
01:43:15,350 --> 01:43:13,520
of the 21 critical care hospitals in

2547
01:43:16,149 --> 01:43:15,360
texas have closed down in the past six

2548
01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:16,159
months

2549
01:43:22,790 --> 01:43:19,600
there i think it's 21

2550
01:43:24,390 --> 01:43:22,800
and it's mostly in rural areas because

2551
01:43:28,149 --> 01:43:24,400
they don't have the money

2552
01:43:30,629 --> 01:43:28,159
and some states are at the edge of

2553
01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:30,639
bankruptcy and when the states go

2554
01:43:35,510 --> 01:43:32,560
bankrupt and the policemen

2555
01:43:37,270 --> 01:43:35,520
and the firemen can't be paid you're

2556
01:43:40,390 --> 01:43:37,280
dropping back down

2557
01:43:41,910 --> 01:43:40,400
into the dark ages very quickly this is

2558
01:43:45,030 --> 01:43:41,920
a serious

2559
01:43:47,990 --> 01:43:45,040
immediate extraordinary problem

2560
01:43:49,830 --> 01:43:48,000
we have not fully yet wrapped our minds

2561
01:43:52,629 --> 01:43:49,840
around and we have to

2562
01:43:54,229 --> 01:43:52,639
we have to because this is beautiful

2563
01:43:56,390 --> 01:43:54,239
what we've made in this world

2564
01:43:57,590 --> 01:43:56,400
and i don't mean just america i mean all

2565
01:44:01,030 --> 01:43:57,600
of these wonderful

2566
01:44:04,149 --> 01:44:01,040
countries full of brilliant beautiful

2567
01:44:04,870 --> 01:44:04,159
educated people full of adventure and

2568
01:44:07,830 --> 01:44:04,880
excitement

2569
01:44:08,149 --> 01:44:07,840
and zest for life we can't let that go

2570
01:44:11,430 --> 01:44:08,159
no

2571
01:44:15,109 --> 01:44:11,440
and rita said to me uh yesterday

2572
01:44:17,990 --> 01:44:15,119
stop me in my tracks whitley rita goes

2573
01:44:18,470 --> 01:44:18,000
we spent a couple hundred years making

2574
01:44:21,510 --> 01:44:18,480
uh

2575
01:44:24,629 --> 01:44:21,520
the united states this wonderful country

2576
01:44:27,350 --> 01:44:24,639
and we took it down in two months right

2577
01:44:28,310 --> 01:44:27,360
it was just like one of the most

2578
01:44:31,750 --> 01:44:28,320
profound

2579
01:44:32,470 --> 01:44:31,760
statements that how quickly things can

2580
01:44:36,390 --> 01:44:32,480
be

2581
01:44:38,229 --> 01:44:36,400
uh undone well we we're in the we're in

2582
01:44:39,990 --> 01:44:38,239
we're literally i mean the cliche we're

2583
01:44:40,709 --> 01:44:40,000
between a rock and a hard place and we

2584
01:44:43,510 --> 01:44:40,719
are

2585
01:44:44,870 --> 01:44:43,520
uh because you know we have to open the

2586
01:44:47,750 --> 01:44:44,880
economy

2587
01:44:47,990 --> 01:44:47,760
or we're going to have a catastrophe and

2588
01:44:55,590 --> 01:44:48,000
a

2589
01:44:59,109 --> 01:44:55,600
don't do this

2590
01:45:02,629 --> 01:44:59,119
very carefully and very correctly then

2591
01:45:05,510 --> 01:45:02,639
the economy is going to be cratered by

2592
01:45:06,390 --> 01:45:05,520
the breakdown that is going to be caused

2593
01:45:09,750 --> 01:45:06,400
by

2594
01:45:11,510 --> 01:45:09,760
you know we

2595
01:45:13,510 --> 01:45:11,520
we gotta we gotta find a happy medium

2596
01:45:15,830 --> 01:45:13,520
and the key to me

2597
01:45:18,229 --> 01:45:15,840
is finding out so that we know in

2598
01:45:20,709 --> 01:45:18,239
advance who is vulnerable and who isn't

2599
01:45:22,709 --> 01:45:20,719
once we know that and we can find that

2600
01:45:26,629 --> 01:45:22,719
out it's not impossible

2601
01:45:28,629 --> 01:45:26,639
as i say that there are uh

2602
01:45:30,550 --> 01:45:28,639
this is definitely being worked on right

2603
01:45:33,910 --> 01:45:30,560
now and let me just grab my paperwork

2604
01:45:38,310 --> 01:45:36,470
all right certain genetic variants

2605
01:45:39,109 --> 01:45:38,320
especially in genes that influence the

2606
01:45:42,149 --> 01:45:39,119
immune system

2607
01:45:42,950 --> 01:45:42,159
seem to predispose people to a host of

2608
01:45:46,149 --> 01:45:42,960
infectious

2609
01:45:49,270 --> 01:45:46,159
diseases and this

2610
01:45:53,030 --> 01:45:49,280
is a there is a group that's what is it

2611
01:45:55,030 --> 01:45:53,040
this dr carrie steffensen asks

2612
01:45:57,270 --> 01:45:55,040
he's head of decode genetics an

2613
01:46:00,070 --> 01:45:57,280
icelandic subsidiary of amig

2614
01:46:01,750 --> 01:46:00,080
of amgen so he's a heavy he's a heavy

2615
01:46:03,590 --> 01:46:01,760
hitter in this field

2616
01:46:06,470 --> 01:46:03,600
what is it that makes some people very

2617
01:46:08,350 --> 01:46:06,480
sick and other people hardly sick at all

2618
01:46:10,070 --> 01:46:08,360
he says there are two major

2619
01:46:12,310 --> 01:46:10,080
possibilities

2620
01:46:14,629 --> 01:46:12,320
some people's genes may simply make them

2621
01:46:15,189 --> 01:46:14,639
more vulnerable to serious illness while

2622
01:46:18,709 --> 01:46:15,199
others

2623
01:46:22,310 --> 01:46:18,719
genes may confer resistance

2624
01:46:25,030 --> 01:46:22,320
and we have to find out who is who

2625
01:46:27,109 --> 01:46:25,040
and once we do that we are on our way to

2626
01:46:29,030 --> 01:46:27,119
defeating this even without a vaccine

2627
01:46:31,830 --> 01:46:29,040
which we may not have in time

2628
01:46:32,310 --> 01:46:31,840
is amgen amgen is right at the street

2629
01:46:35,510 --> 01:46:32,320
from us

2630
01:46:36,950 --> 01:46:35,520
as you know uh here in the valley um

2631
01:46:38,709 --> 01:46:36,960
and we need to take a break right here

2632
01:46:41,430 --> 01:46:38,719
but is amgen actively

2633
01:46:41,910 --> 01:46:41,440
uh working on this every drug company in

2634
01:46:44,310 --> 01:46:41,920
the world

2635
01:46:45,990 --> 01:46:44,320
yeah i'm sure they are yeah that was uh

2636
01:46:50,070 --> 01:46:46,000
i realized the dumbness

2637
01:46:51,990 --> 01:46:50,080
of my question but but amgen apparently

2638
01:46:53,669 --> 01:46:52,000
is working on the genetic issue which i

2639
01:46:55,270 --> 01:46:53,679
consider the critical issue

2640
01:46:57,669 --> 01:46:55,280
no one talks about it and it's not in

2641
01:47:00,070 --> 01:46:57,679
the media much less

2642
01:47:01,350 --> 01:47:00,080
i'm going to take turnout to be critical

2643
01:47:01,990 --> 01:47:01,360
we're taking a break right here our

2644
01:47:04,310 --> 01:47:02,000
guest tonight

2645
01:47:11,830 --> 01:47:04,320
whitley strieber stay with us we'll be

2646
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:19,590
[Music]

2647
01:47:22,790 --> 01:47:21,430
welcome back pay the block i am your

2648
01:47:25,109 --> 01:47:22,800
host jimmy church i guess tonight

2649
01:47:27,310 --> 01:47:25,119
whitney strieber

2650
01:47:28,870 --> 01:47:27,320
whitley's links are over at

2651
01:47:30,790 --> 01:47:28,880
jimmychurchradio.com you can click

2652
01:47:33,270 --> 01:47:30,800
unknown country

2653
01:47:34,629 --> 01:47:33,280
streamer.com all of his books are there

2654
01:47:37,990 --> 01:47:34,639
too as well

2655
01:47:39,030 --> 01:47:38,000
and now whitley uh picking up where we

2656
01:47:42,629 --> 01:47:39,040
just left off

2657
01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:42,639
it sounds like i mean this is a bright

2658
01:47:46,310 --> 01:47:45,040
future right this isn't this isn't doom

2659
01:47:47,990 --> 01:47:46,320
and gloom if we

2660
01:47:49,990 --> 01:47:48,000
if you know what i'm saying right the

2661
01:47:53,270 --> 01:47:50,000
fear porn that is out there right now

2662
01:47:56,070 --> 01:47:53,280
we will fix this right and you know

2663
01:47:56,870 --> 01:47:56,080
all it takes is is intelligent

2664
01:47:59,669 --> 01:47:56,880
leadership

2665
01:48:00,870 --> 01:47:59,679
and we've got that in this world i mean

2666
01:48:02,709 --> 01:48:00,880
of course

2667
01:48:04,390 --> 01:48:02,719
countries are fumbling around our

2668
01:48:06,950 --> 01:48:04,400
country is fumbling around the chinese

2669
01:48:10,310 --> 01:48:06,960
fumbled around

2670
01:48:11,189 --> 01:48:10,320
them did better than others the germans

2671
01:48:14,629 --> 01:48:11,199
did real well

2672
01:48:16,229 --> 01:48:14,639
and uh the swedes are doing it

2673
01:48:18,870 --> 01:48:16,239
completely differently but their

2674
01:48:20,390 --> 01:48:18,880
their system seems to be working i'm not

2675
01:48:21,830 --> 01:48:20,400
so sure it would work here because this

2676
01:48:25,270 --> 01:48:21,840
is a much bigger

2677
01:48:26,870 --> 01:48:25,280
much bigger more diverse country uh

2678
01:48:28,629 --> 01:48:26,880
some of them didn't do it so whether

2679
01:48:30,149 --> 01:48:28,639
brazil is not doing it well and they're

2680
01:48:32,310 --> 01:48:30,159
going to suffer

2681
01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:32,320
so it you know it's mixed bag but the

2682
01:48:36,950 --> 01:48:33,360
point is

2683
01:48:39,830 --> 01:48:36,960
we will get past this once we do it

2684
01:48:40,149 --> 01:48:39,840
as mankind as a species yeah right and

2685
01:48:43,030 --> 01:48:40,159
so

2686
01:48:43,750 --> 01:48:43,040
once we understand the genetics side of

2687
01:48:47,030 --> 01:48:43,760
it

2688
01:48:48,629 --> 01:48:47,040
is this something that a technology

2689
01:48:51,990 --> 01:48:48,639
likes a crispr

2690
01:48:54,229 --> 01:48:52,000
or some direct dna modification instead

2691
01:48:57,430 --> 01:48:54,239
of pursuing a vaccine

2692
01:49:00,870 --> 01:48:57,440
right and and trying to go that route uh

2693
01:49:02,149 --> 01:49:00,880
or developing some type of immunity and

2694
01:49:03,669 --> 01:49:02,159
antibodies that

2695
01:49:05,189 --> 01:49:03,679
others are talking about right now and

2696
01:49:07,030 --> 01:49:05,199
do it naturally but

2697
01:49:08,870 --> 01:49:07,040
is this something that we could use hard

2698
01:49:11,430 --> 01:49:08,880
science on and

2699
01:49:13,669 --> 01:49:11,440
oh yeah just eliminate for for the

2700
01:49:16,790 --> 01:49:13,679
future of mankind

2701
01:49:20,390 --> 01:49:16,800
oh absolutely uh we could we could

2702
01:49:23,830 --> 01:49:20,400
we it'll take longer to get

2703
01:49:27,030 --> 01:49:23,840
get it to that point in other words

2704
01:49:28,390 --> 01:49:27,040
we eliminated smallpox it's no longer

2705
01:49:31,750 --> 01:49:28,400
with us

2706
01:49:34,790 --> 01:49:31,760
and i don't think we're ever going to

2707
01:49:37,189 --> 01:49:34,800
eliminate the coronaviruses they are

2708
01:49:38,709 --> 01:49:37,199
they are real clever suckers and we've

2709
01:49:40,470 --> 01:49:38,719
been with they've been with us for a

2710
01:49:42,709 --> 01:49:40,480
long time you know that

2711
01:49:44,629 --> 01:49:42,719
vaccine research that's going on in

2712
01:49:46,149 --> 01:49:44,639
england at oxford

2713
01:49:48,310 --> 01:49:46,159
had a head start because they were

2714
01:49:49,910 --> 01:49:48,320
actually working on a vaccine for the

2715
01:49:52,149 --> 01:49:49,920
common cold which is the

2716
01:49:54,550 --> 01:49:52,159
holy grail of all pharmaceutical

2717
01:49:56,550 --> 01:49:54,560
vaccines as you may imagine

2718
01:49:58,229 --> 01:49:56,560
because everyone would love a vaccine

2719
01:49:59,430 --> 01:49:58,239
for the whole for the common cold and

2720
01:50:01,669 --> 01:49:59,440
they were able to

2721
01:50:03,510 --> 01:50:01,679
fold that research into coronavirus

2722
01:50:06,149 --> 01:50:03,520
because it's also a corona

2723
01:50:06,790 --> 01:50:06,159
coronavares that you know the cold is

2724
01:50:09,830 --> 01:50:06,800
also

2725
01:50:12,629 --> 01:50:09,840
coronavirus but so that

2726
01:50:14,310 --> 01:50:12,639
that is one direction we we will go in

2727
01:50:16,390 --> 01:50:14,320
and there's a lot of antibacters out

2728
01:50:16,950 --> 01:50:16,400
there who will not take a vaccine though

2729
01:50:20,070 --> 01:50:16,960
and

2730
01:50:21,669 --> 01:50:20,080
they will remain vulnerable uh

2731
01:50:23,109 --> 01:50:21,679
for that reason but you know there's

2732
01:50:25,189 --> 01:50:23,119
nothing you can do about that there's

2733
01:50:28,390 --> 01:50:25,199
also

2734
01:50:32,550 --> 01:50:28,400
other things that are being done of the

2735
01:50:37,910 --> 01:50:34,149
product that they're rolling out right

2736
01:50:39,270 --> 01:50:37,920
now works the same way that tamiflu does

2737
01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:39,280
and what it does is it

2738
01:50:43,350 --> 01:50:41,760
inhibits the viruses ability to

2739
01:50:49,510 --> 01:50:43,360
reproduce

2740
01:50:50,070 --> 01:50:49,520
and therefore the body gets a better

2741
01:50:53,430 --> 01:50:50,080
chance

2742
01:50:57,030 --> 01:50:53,440
to bring its own immune system

2743
01:50:57,750 --> 01:50:57,040
its immune response to to uh into the

2744
01:51:00,629 --> 01:50:57,760
picture

2745
01:51:01,350 --> 01:51:00,639
and it means that the that the infection

2746
01:51:04,709 --> 01:51:01,360
will last

2747
01:51:06,070 --> 01:51:04,719
won't last as long and the result of

2748
01:51:09,350 --> 01:51:06,080
that is that

2749
01:51:11,189 --> 01:51:09,360
people won't get overwhelmed by

2750
01:51:13,430 --> 01:51:11,199
less likely to get overwhelmed by this

2751
01:51:14,870 --> 01:51:13,440
thing because it's it's in the latter

2752
01:51:17,109 --> 01:51:14,880
stages of it

2753
01:51:19,669 --> 01:51:17,119
that they get over their the body gets

2754
01:51:22,629 --> 01:51:19,679
overwhelmed and the immune system

2755
01:51:24,390 --> 01:51:22,639
the virus begins to exponentially

2756
01:51:27,430 --> 01:51:24,400
increase in numbers

2757
01:51:30,229 --> 01:51:27,440
and the immune system kind of goes crazy

2758
01:51:33,030 --> 01:51:30,239
and the immune system starts starts

2759
01:51:36,470 --> 01:51:33,040
overwhelming the body's own

2760
01:51:39,510 --> 01:51:36,480
the body itself the fever goes crazy uh

2761
01:51:42,229 --> 01:51:39,520
apparently this blood clotting thing

2762
01:51:45,350 --> 01:51:42,239
that happens in some cases is related

2763
01:51:48,390 --> 01:51:45,360
to the immune system going off track and

2764
01:51:52,149 --> 01:51:48,400
so it's a you know it

2765
01:51:54,790 --> 01:51:52,159
the anti the anti the drug that uh

2766
01:51:56,390 --> 01:51:54,800
the antiviral that gilead is working on

2767
01:51:59,030 --> 01:51:56,400
might prevent that

2768
01:52:00,390 --> 01:51:59,040
and that would be a big plus if we could

2769
01:52:04,310 --> 01:52:00,400
know that people

2770
01:52:06,870 --> 01:52:04,320
yes some people might get very sick

2771
01:52:08,470 --> 01:52:06,880
but they won't get terminally sick

2772
01:52:11,910 --> 01:52:08,480
they're unlikely to end up in

2773
01:52:13,990 --> 01:52:11,920
on a ventilator unlikely to

2774
01:52:15,189 --> 01:52:14,000
have to go to the hospital and overwhelm

2775
01:52:23,270 --> 01:52:15,199
the

2776
01:52:26,390 --> 01:52:23,280
going on that's

2777
01:52:27,990 --> 01:52:26,400
positive and but i think that the the

2778
01:52:31,750 --> 01:52:28,000
bottom line is we really

2779
01:52:34,870 --> 01:52:31,760
do need to understand who's going to get

2780
01:52:35,910 --> 01:52:34,880
into trouble with it and who isn't now

2781
01:52:39,270 --> 01:52:35,920
it's been said

2782
01:52:43,830 --> 01:52:39,280
so many times over the years that if

2783
01:52:45,910 --> 01:52:43,840
uh if we could conquer uh any virus

2784
01:52:47,270 --> 01:52:45,920
then that takes care of the you know

2785
01:52:50,790 --> 01:52:47,280
then that's it i mean the

2786
01:52:54,390 --> 01:52:50,800
the virus question is is answered

2787
01:52:59,189 --> 01:52:54,400
but would would you

2788
01:53:01,109 --> 01:52:59,199
take a a a an antiviral vaccine i'm

2789
01:53:01,990 --> 01:53:01,119
talking about you specifically whitley

2790
01:53:04,709 --> 01:53:02,000
oh yeah

2791
01:53:06,310 --> 01:53:04,719
you would do it oh sure listen i grew up

2792
01:53:08,629 --> 01:53:06,320
in the era of polio

2793
01:53:09,990 --> 01:53:08,639
right when i was a little boy every

2794
01:53:11,990 --> 01:53:10,000
summer

2795
01:53:13,589 --> 01:53:12,000
some kids did not come back to school

2796
01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:13,599
because they died of polio or

2797
01:53:18,550 --> 01:53:16,800
became paralyzed in the summer and

2798
01:53:21,270 --> 01:53:18,560
we used to have to be hidden away in our

2799
01:53:23,030 --> 01:53:21,280
house for weeks during the summer time

2800
01:53:26,310 --> 01:53:23,040
when i was a little boy

2801
01:53:28,070 --> 01:53:26,320
so when that vaccine that polio vaccine

2802
01:53:31,270 --> 01:53:28,080
came out it changed my life

2803
01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:31,280
in the life of all my friends and i have

2804
01:53:34,470 --> 01:53:32,960
not been interested in the anti-vaxx

2805
01:53:37,589 --> 01:53:34,480
movement since then

2806
01:53:41,350 --> 01:53:37,599
because you know i

2807
01:53:43,510 --> 01:53:41,360
i hear probably because of a vaccine

2808
01:53:44,709 --> 01:53:43,520
and i just don't you know i'm just not

2809
01:53:47,830 --> 01:53:44,719
concerned about it

2810
01:53:51,910 --> 01:53:47,840
frankly i i know i listen i've listened

2811
01:53:53,350 --> 01:53:51,920
to uh the kennedy young kennedy fellow

2812
01:53:54,310 --> 01:53:53,360
who talks about it in all of his

2813
01:53:56,709 --> 01:53:54,320
arguments and

2814
01:53:58,790 --> 01:53:56,719
i have friends who would never go near a

2815
01:54:01,910 --> 01:53:58,800
vaccine and that's their privilege

2816
01:54:05,270 --> 01:54:01,920
but that's not my choice

2817
01:54:08,790 --> 01:54:05,280
yeah i i there's

2818
01:54:10,550 --> 01:54:08,800
there's anti-vaxxers and and when we are

2819
01:54:13,430 --> 01:54:10,560
talking about

2820
01:54:14,229 --> 01:54:13,440
uh specifically like the movie vaxxed

2821
01:54:16,229 --> 01:54:14,239
which is a

2822
01:54:17,750 --> 01:54:16,239
scary movie to watch yeah that's the

2823
01:54:18,149 --> 01:54:17,760
movie i was that's what i was referring

2824
01:54:20,310 --> 01:54:18,159
to

2825
01:54:21,270 --> 01:54:20,320
right and i've seen that yeah that's a

2826
01:54:24,229 --> 01:54:21,280
scary movie

2827
01:54:26,149 --> 01:54:24,239
it it really makes you question things

2828
01:54:28,310 --> 01:54:26,159
especially when it comes to autism and

2829
01:54:30,629 --> 01:54:28,320
the amount of vaccines that are required

2830
01:54:33,510 --> 01:54:30,639
and the studies that are behind it that

2831
01:54:36,149 --> 01:54:33,520
suggests the exact opposite is happening

2832
01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:36,159
here which is it's it's a causer of of

2833
01:54:39,270 --> 01:54:36,800
autism

2834
01:54:41,270 --> 01:54:39,280
and the numbers uh that are going up

2835
01:54:45,109 --> 01:54:41,280
exponentially so

2836
01:54:47,669 --> 01:54:45,119
in autism today it's it's a scary thing

2837
01:54:49,350 --> 01:54:47,679
and then when we flip this over and

2838
01:54:52,070 --> 01:54:49,360
we're talking about

2839
01:54:53,510 --> 01:54:52,080
not only the curing of the common cold

2840
01:54:56,709 --> 01:54:53,520
and coronavirus

2841
01:55:00,070 --> 01:54:56,719
and uh and and flus which

2842
01:55:02,790 --> 01:55:00,080
kill you know so many people each year

2843
01:55:03,350 --> 01:55:02,800
is that something that you know if it is

2844
01:55:05,510 --> 01:55:03,360
indeed

2845
01:55:07,030 --> 01:55:05,520
safe is that something that we should

2846
01:55:09,750 --> 01:55:07,040
all consider

2847
01:55:12,390 --> 01:55:09,760
um the jury's out for me i've i've gotta

2848
01:55:15,430 --> 01:55:12,400
i've gotta wait for the data to come in

2849
01:55:17,990 --> 01:55:15,440
and i don't want to be uh

2850
01:55:19,510 --> 01:55:18,000
how do i say this correctly i don't want

2851
01:55:22,149 --> 01:55:19,520
to suggest that i'm an

2852
01:55:24,390 --> 01:55:22,159
anti-vaxxer but when it comes to autism

2853
01:55:27,350 --> 01:55:24,400
and and what is played out

2854
01:55:29,189 --> 01:55:27,360
in the movie vax that that's something

2855
01:55:30,390 --> 01:55:29,199
else altogether isn't it we're talking

2856
01:55:33,589 --> 01:55:30,400
about two different

2857
01:55:36,790 --> 01:55:33,599
two different types of vaccinations here

2858
01:55:39,589 --> 01:55:36,800
well all i can say is this that

2859
01:55:41,669 --> 01:55:39,599
i've never known in my own life anyone

2860
01:55:44,709 --> 01:55:41,679
who and it was

2861
01:55:45,030 --> 01:55:44,719
apparently made autistic by by it so i'm

2862
01:55:47,750 --> 01:55:45,040
sure

2863
01:55:48,390 --> 01:55:47,760
people have and it's tragic when that

2864
01:55:51,589 --> 01:55:48,400
happens

2865
01:55:54,790 --> 01:55:51,599
but i don't know that the i saw the

2866
01:55:57,030 --> 01:55:54,800
movie and i've also read a lot about

2867
01:55:58,870 --> 01:55:57,040
this whole issue and i'm not so sure

2868
01:56:00,310 --> 01:55:58,880
that it's clear that there is a definite

2869
01:56:03,990 --> 01:56:00,320
connection between

2870
01:56:05,669 --> 01:56:04,000
vaccines and autism especially modern

2871
01:56:07,669 --> 01:56:05,679
vaccines

2872
01:56:09,430 --> 01:56:07,679
i mean god knows what was in what i took

2873
01:56:13,270 --> 01:56:09,440
the polio vaccine i didn't know

2874
01:56:16,390 --> 01:56:13,280
anything about that then and i'm fine

2875
01:56:17,430 --> 01:56:16,400
we all got it you know yeah you got it

2876
01:56:20,070 --> 01:56:17,440
probably got it too

2877
01:56:21,430 --> 01:56:20,080
yo i absolutely got it i went there you

2878
01:56:24,790 --> 01:56:21,440
know and i remember

2879
01:56:27,750 --> 01:56:24,800
i've spoken about this enough um i

2880
01:56:28,070 --> 01:56:27,760
remember uh being in school it seemed

2881
01:56:30,950 --> 01:56:28,080
like

2882
01:56:32,390 --> 01:56:30,960
every single year you know we we got our

2883
01:56:35,830 --> 01:56:32,400
shots

2884
01:56:39,030 --> 01:56:35,840
that's it yeah and and we lined up

2885
01:56:40,550 --> 01:56:39,040
uh like uh like cattle

2886
01:56:42,790 --> 01:56:40,560
you know we didn't we didn't question

2887
01:56:43,589 --> 01:56:42,800
anything rolled up our sleeves got our

2888
01:56:46,629 --> 01:56:43,599
shots and when

2889
01:56:47,430 --> 01:56:46,639
went about our business um and you know

2890
01:56:51,350 --> 01:56:47,440
in the summer

2891
01:56:52,149 --> 01:56:51,360
i had to i was taken to our country

2892
01:56:55,910 --> 01:56:52,159
house

2893
01:56:56,950 --> 01:56:55,920
and and left to stay with the caretaker

2894
01:56:59,589 --> 01:56:56,960
and his wife

2895
01:57:00,310 --> 01:56:59,599
when the polio was around they wouldn't

2896
01:57:03,510 --> 01:57:00,320
let me

2897
01:57:05,510 --> 01:57:03,520
even stay at home

2898
01:57:07,350 --> 01:57:05,520
my sister stayed at home and because she

2899
01:57:09,109 --> 01:57:07,360
didn't she was a little older and she

2900
01:57:10,470 --> 01:57:09,119
didn't want to be isolated like that and

2901
01:57:11,990 --> 01:57:10,480
she got it actually

2902
01:57:14,149 --> 01:57:12,000
she didn't get a very bad case of it

2903
01:57:15,910 --> 01:57:14,159
thankfully but she did get it

2904
01:57:17,669 --> 01:57:15,920
and some of the children in the

2905
01:57:18,870 --> 01:57:17,679
neighborhood were lo we lost some of

2906
01:57:23,109 --> 01:57:18,880
them

2907
01:57:28,070 --> 01:57:23,119
died and so it was pretty creepy

2908
01:57:30,070 --> 01:57:28,080
i i um i never forget the summer that i

2909
01:57:32,149 --> 01:57:30,080
had polio vaccine and didn't have to do

2910
01:57:34,470 --> 01:57:32,159
that anymore it was wonderful

2911
01:57:35,430 --> 01:57:34,480
listen you know i found this stuff about

2912
01:57:38,950 --> 01:57:35,440
this

2913
01:57:41,510 --> 01:57:38,960
special time of night

2914
01:57:43,030 --> 01:57:41,520
the the that we were going to talk about

2915
01:57:44,870 --> 01:57:43,040
earlier and i couldn't remember it and i

2916
01:57:48,550 --> 01:57:44,880
know the listeners are interested so

2917
01:57:50,790 --> 01:57:48,560
sure yeah let's talk about it now

2918
01:57:51,669 --> 01:57:50,800
this is the amazing thing back in the

2919
01:57:55,030 --> 01:57:51,679
90s

2920
01:57:58,390 --> 01:57:55,040
i was meditating with some individuals

2921
01:58:00,470 --> 01:57:58,400
it's in i guess it's in my book uh

2922
01:58:01,830 --> 01:58:00,480
well i think it's certainly in

2923
01:58:05,109 --> 01:58:01,840
supernatural

2924
01:58:08,709 --> 01:58:05,119
anyway uh they were very

2925
01:58:11,109 --> 01:58:08,719
physical at times and

2926
01:58:12,229 --> 01:58:11,119
and it's also in solving a communion

2927
01:58:15,669 --> 01:58:12,239
enigma

2928
01:58:17,030 --> 01:58:15,679
in more detail and they would wake me up

2929
01:58:17,669 --> 01:58:17,040
at three o'clock in the morning to

2930
01:58:20,950 --> 01:58:17,679
meditate

2931
01:58:21,270 --> 01:58:20,960
every morning and they really wanted

2932
01:58:23,350 --> 01:58:21,280
that

2933
01:58:25,030 --> 01:58:23,360
and then we lost the cabin and ran out

2934
01:58:25,589 --> 01:58:25,040
of money and moved to texas and i quit

2935
01:58:28,550 --> 01:58:25,599
doing it

2936
01:58:30,550 --> 01:58:28,560
forgot about it then after annie died it

2937
01:58:31,910 --> 01:58:30,560
start as i said earlier it started again

2938
01:58:34,070 --> 01:58:31,920
and

2939
01:58:35,750 --> 01:58:34,080
someone on my i never occurred to me to

2940
01:58:38,390 --> 01:58:35,760
ask the implant about it i just

2941
01:58:40,709 --> 01:58:38,400
assumed it was quiet and that's why they

2942
01:58:43,270 --> 01:58:40,719
wanted to do it then

2943
01:58:44,470 --> 01:58:43,280
and someone on an unknown country in one

2944
01:58:47,510 --> 01:58:44,480
of the message boards

2945
01:58:48,709 --> 01:58:47,520
said posted this thing about this time

2946
01:58:52,709 --> 01:58:48,719
of night

2947
01:58:55,750 --> 01:58:52,719
that is known as brahma muhirtha

2948
01:58:58,950 --> 01:58:55,760
and i was stunned when i read

2949
01:59:07,629 --> 01:58:58,960
read this uh here's this

2950
01:59:12,229 --> 01:59:08,950
s-a-d-h-g-u-r-u

2951
01:59:13,510 --> 01:59:12,239
dot org where you can find information

2952
01:59:17,189 --> 01:59:13,520
about it

2953
01:59:20,629 --> 01:59:17,199
it turns out that the time

2954
01:59:21,109 --> 01:59:20,639
the brahma muhirtha time is anywhere

2955
01:59:25,030 --> 01:59:21,119
between

2956
01:59:27,270 --> 01:59:25,040
3 30 to 5 30 or 6 a.m or whatever is the

2957
01:59:30,310 --> 01:59:27,280
time of sunrise

2958
01:59:33,669 --> 01:59:30,320
and this is the time

2959
01:59:36,950 --> 01:59:33,679
when the last quarter of the night

2960
01:59:40,390 --> 01:59:36,960
when it is possible to become

2961
01:59:43,990 --> 01:59:40,400
brahmana or creator and make

2962
01:59:47,910 --> 01:59:44,000
yourself the way you want to be

2963
01:59:50,229 --> 01:59:47,920
it says here and it says the nature of

2964
01:59:52,470 --> 01:59:50,239
the planet's relationship with the sun

2965
01:59:55,750 --> 01:59:52,480
and moon is such that certain

2966
01:59:56,149 --> 01:59:55,760
physiologic logical changes happen

2967
01:59:59,270 --> 01:59:56,159
during

2968
02:00:01,430 --> 01:59:59,280
in the human system at this time medical

2969
02:00:03,109 --> 02:00:01,440
sciences even found that the waste

2970
02:00:04,950 --> 02:00:03,119
material in your body

2971
02:00:06,709 --> 02:00:04,960
such as your urine for example has

2972
02:00:09,030 --> 02:00:06,719
certain qualities at that time which

2973
02:00:11,510 --> 02:00:09,040
does not have any other time of day

2974
02:00:12,629 --> 02:00:11,520
well i'm not interested in that i'm i'm

2975
02:00:14,070 --> 02:00:12,639
good

2976
02:00:16,870 --> 02:00:14,080
i don't know i don't want to learn any

2977
02:00:18,790 --> 02:00:16,880
more about it but anyway

2978
02:00:20,870 --> 02:00:18,800
the entire body is in a certain

2979
02:00:23,030 --> 02:00:20,880
conducive atmosphere

2980
02:00:24,229 --> 02:00:23,040
and there is a natural production of

2981
02:00:27,510 --> 02:00:24,239
melatonin

2982
02:00:31,030 --> 02:00:27,520
seek being secreted by the pineal gland

2983
02:00:31,910 --> 02:00:31,040
and the it is during its maximum during

2984
02:00:35,750 --> 02:00:31,920
the brahma

2985
02:00:39,030 --> 02:00:35,760
muharram time and you can

2986
02:00:41,990 --> 02:00:39,040
you have your mood is very stable

2987
02:00:42,550 --> 02:00:42,000
and you can it says you're bringing

2988
02:00:46,229 --> 02:00:42,560
yourself

2989
02:00:47,030 --> 02:00:46,239
to ease and it goes on like that and you

2990
02:00:50,149 --> 02:00:47,040
know i

2991
02:00:50,550 --> 02:00:50,159
i've now been doing it literally every

2992
02:00:53,669 --> 02:00:50,560
night

2993
02:00:55,990 --> 02:00:53,679
since september of 2015

2994
02:00:58,070 --> 02:00:56,000
and if i don't i don't want an alarm

2995
02:00:59,910 --> 02:00:58,080
clock i want as i said earlier to do it

2996
02:01:02,950 --> 02:00:59,920
organically

2997
02:01:04,870 --> 02:01:02,960
i want it to be part of me and and i

2998
02:01:06,310 --> 02:01:04,880
wanted to be part of my engagement with

2999
02:01:08,390 --> 02:01:06,320
whatever's out there because they will

3000
02:01:09,589 --> 02:01:08,400
wake me up if i don't wake up and i want

3001
02:01:12,070 --> 02:01:09,599
that to happen

3002
02:01:12,629 --> 02:01:12,080
i want that engagement if i can get it

3003
02:01:14,629 --> 02:01:12,639
anything

3004
02:01:16,470 --> 02:01:14,639
i can any engagement i can get teaches

3005
02:01:20,070 --> 02:01:16,480
me more every time

3006
02:01:23,270 --> 02:01:20,080
so i'm never tired

3007
02:01:23,750 --> 02:01:23,280
i'm never tired here's my day i wake up

3008
02:01:27,430 --> 02:01:23,760
about

3009
02:01:31,030 --> 02:01:27,440
6 30 or 7. i usually ride

3010
02:01:34,070 --> 02:01:31,040
my my bike now indoors but

3011
02:01:36,870 --> 02:01:34,080
earlier outdoors i ride the indoor bike

3012
02:01:41,510 --> 02:01:36,880
until i've gotten 15 minutes with my

3013
02:01:45,990 --> 02:01:41,520
heart rate at a certain level above 115.

3014
02:01:48,070 --> 02:01:46,000
and then i have my day and my day lasts

3015
02:01:50,070 --> 02:01:48,080
and basically until 11 o'clock at night

3016
02:01:50,950 --> 02:01:50,080
when i meditate for between half an hour

3017
02:01:53,430 --> 02:01:50,960
and an hour

3018
02:01:55,270 --> 02:01:53,440
do the sensing exercise depending on how

3019
02:01:55,589 --> 02:01:55,280
well it's going and how deep i'm getting

3020
02:02:12,709 --> 02:01:55,599
i

3021
02:02:16,790 --> 02:02:12,719
to an hour

3022
02:02:19,270 --> 02:02:16,800
then i sleep again until 6 30 or 7

3023
02:02:20,149 --> 02:02:19,280
and that's my life and i'm never tired

3024
02:02:26,470 --> 02:02:20,159
at all

3025
02:02:29,589 --> 02:02:26,480
the uh the other part about this

3026
02:02:32,229 --> 02:02:29,599
now i've often wondered

3027
02:02:33,030 --> 02:02:32,239
if that includes myself by the way

3028
02:02:37,189 --> 02:02:33,040
whitley

3029
02:02:39,990 --> 02:02:37,199
that if people go through this

3030
02:02:40,709 --> 02:02:40,000
completely naturally without practicing

3031
02:02:43,350 --> 02:02:40,719
it

3032
02:02:45,189 --> 02:02:43,360
and recognize what is going on but

3033
02:02:48,470 --> 02:02:45,199
thought that it was just a thing

3034
02:02:48,950 --> 02:02:48,480
right you know that was how i was yeah

3035
02:02:52,149 --> 02:02:48,960
yeah

3036
02:02:55,990 --> 02:02:52,159
because

3037
02:02:58,390 --> 02:02:56,000
i've never done a traditional

3038
02:03:00,229 --> 02:02:58,400
uh meditation where i went through steps

3039
02:03:02,070 --> 02:03:00,239
right one two three four five six

3040
02:03:03,750 --> 02:03:02,080
i i've never done that but i've

3041
02:03:06,870 --> 02:03:03,760
certainly gone into

3042
02:03:09,910 --> 02:03:06,880
zones that i think

3043
02:03:12,470 --> 02:03:09,920
are meditative right

3044
02:03:13,510 --> 02:03:12,480
but you know it just completely in a

3045
02:03:15,669 --> 02:03:13,520
natural way

3046
02:03:17,589 --> 02:03:15,679
because people talk about waking up at 3

3047
02:03:19,750 --> 02:03:17,599
30 all the time

3048
02:03:21,350 --> 02:03:19,760
waking up at four in the morning in

3049
02:03:23,750 --> 02:03:21,360
these states

3050
02:03:24,950 --> 02:03:23,760
and and have often questioned what is

3051
02:03:27,430 --> 02:03:24,960
going on including

3052
02:03:28,709 --> 02:03:27,440
relatives of mine by the way but they're

3053
02:03:30,870 --> 02:03:28,719
not meditators

3054
02:03:32,229 --> 02:03:30,880
right they're not practicing it but

3055
02:03:36,310 --> 02:03:32,239
something is happening

3056
02:03:37,830 --> 02:03:36,320
well the body wants to engage at this

3057
02:03:39,990 --> 02:03:37,840
level at that time of day

3058
02:03:41,990 --> 02:03:40,000
that's probably probably been happening

3059
02:03:45,830 --> 02:03:42,000
to people a long time

3060
02:03:49,589 --> 02:03:45,840
and these indian yogis figured it out

3061
02:03:51,589 --> 02:03:49,599
and made institutionalized it and then

3062
02:03:54,069 --> 02:03:51,599
and they came to understand it is what

3063
02:03:55,750 --> 02:03:54,079
happened and it's exciting to me because

3064
02:03:57,830 --> 02:03:55,760
i've been doing it for so long and i

3065
02:04:01,109 --> 02:03:57,840
didn't even know that there was any

3066
02:04:03,910 --> 02:04:01,119
tradition of it at all and now i do

3067
02:04:04,709 --> 02:04:03,920
which is wonderful now i wanted to uh

3068
02:04:07,030 --> 02:04:04,719
get to this

3069
02:04:08,470 --> 02:04:07,040
also i know it's it's starting to get a

3070
02:04:10,470 --> 02:04:08,480
little bit late but if you want to

3071
02:04:12,790 --> 02:04:10,480
continue the conversation

3072
02:04:14,390 --> 02:04:12,800
we can do it after this next break but

3073
02:04:15,270 --> 02:04:14,400
before we get there i want to get this

3074
02:04:18,629 --> 02:04:15,280
in

3075
02:04:19,990 --> 02:04:18,639
is has there been any reference from the

3076
02:04:23,430 --> 02:04:20,000
visitors

3077
02:04:25,589 --> 02:04:23,440
about a global crowd

3078
02:04:27,510 --> 02:04:25,599
control situation that this is something

3079
02:04:30,629 --> 02:04:27,520
that has been implemented

3080
02:04:33,750 --> 02:04:30,639
by the dark side for for

3081
02:04:34,870 --> 02:04:33,760
control for control of the planet no i

3082
02:04:38,470 --> 02:04:34,880
don't have that

3083
02:04:42,229 --> 02:04:38,480
in my life i'm not aware i mean i don't

3084
02:04:43,750 --> 02:04:42,239
there is no dark side in my life i

3085
02:04:45,750 --> 02:04:43,760
i wouldn't know what it might or might

3086
02:04:49,109 --> 02:04:45,760
not be doing or even it exists

3087
02:04:49,510 --> 02:04:49,119
except inside us i see the dark side as

3088
02:04:52,629 --> 02:04:49,520
being

3089
02:04:56,069 --> 02:04:52,639
fear under another name

3090
02:04:58,310 --> 02:04:56,079
and what i experience is often very

3091
02:05:01,350 --> 02:04:58,320
intense and difficult

3092
02:05:03,589 --> 02:05:01,360
but it if i look at it

3093
02:05:04,550 --> 02:05:03,599
squarely i always find something of

3094
02:05:07,669 --> 02:05:04,560
value there

3095
02:05:10,310 --> 02:05:07,679
even when it is at its most difficult

3096
02:05:11,350 --> 02:05:10,320
and that has been i've had the worst

3097
02:05:13,669 --> 02:05:11,360
things that

3098
02:05:14,470 --> 02:05:13,679
you can have happen in this experience

3099
02:05:18,550 --> 02:05:14,480
happened to me

3100
02:05:22,229 --> 02:05:18,560
and my wife and

3101
02:05:25,589 --> 02:05:22,239
my choice is to make it mine

3102
02:05:26,149 --> 02:05:25,599
and make it valuable to me no matter

3103
02:05:30,310 --> 02:05:26,159
what

3104
02:05:32,790 --> 02:05:30,320
to flip it over exactly 180 degrees if

3105
02:05:36,470 --> 02:05:32,800
the dark side comes into my life it gets

3106
02:05:40,390 --> 02:05:36,480
flipped over and i use it

3107
02:05:44,709 --> 02:05:40,400
for my own benefit whatever it does

3108
02:05:48,629 --> 02:05:44,719
and tries is that the best

3109
02:05:51,030 --> 02:05:48,639
is that the best that the the media

3110
02:05:52,709 --> 02:05:51,040
and state actors right now can do is

3111
02:05:54,069 --> 02:05:52,719
implement the fear card like they've

3112
02:05:55,510 --> 02:05:54,079
been doing for the last three four

3113
02:05:58,069 --> 02:05:55,520
months

3114
02:05:59,990 --> 02:05:58,079
well i think they have no choice if

3115
02:06:02,790 --> 02:06:00,000
people weren't afraid

3116
02:06:04,629 --> 02:06:02,800
they would not shelter and they and if

3117
02:06:06,870 --> 02:06:04,639
they don't shelter

3118
02:06:08,709 --> 02:06:06,880
it's very clear what happens is what

3119
02:06:10,790 --> 02:06:08,719
happened in italy

3120
02:06:13,109 --> 02:06:10,800
the whole place practically broke down

3121
02:06:15,750 --> 02:06:13,119
the whole northern half of italy was

3122
02:06:17,750 --> 02:06:15,760
riddled with this stuff and then in

3123
02:06:19,990 --> 02:06:17,760
spain the same thing happened

3124
02:06:21,510 --> 02:06:20,000
and here it's happened in pockets like

3125
02:06:24,870 --> 02:06:21,520
new york city

3126
02:06:26,229 --> 02:06:24,880
uh you know you can't you can't play

3127
02:06:28,390 --> 02:06:26,239
games with this

3128
02:06:30,550 --> 02:06:28,400
and i i think that looking at it

3129
02:06:34,229 --> 02:06:30,560
politically like that

3130
02:06:37,750 --> 02:06:34,239
is the really the wrong way to go

3131
02:06:39,910 --> 02:06:37,760
it just it isn't politics people make it

3132
02:06:41,430 --> 02:06:39,920
into a political thing and you can see

3133
02:06:44,069 --> 02:06:41,440
these things uh

3134
02:06:46,390 --> 02:06:44,079
uh your you know my first amendment

3135
02:06:48,950 --> 02:06:46,400
rights or these rights or those rights

3136
02:06:50,310 --> 02:06:48,960
that people are talking about the only

3137
02:06:53,510 --> 02:06:50,320
right that

3138
02:06:56,390 --> 02:06:53,520
counts is the right to live a peaceful

3139
02:06:58,390 --> 02:06:56,400
healthy and prosperous life this is what

3140
02:07:00,709 --> 02:06:58,400
we're looking for

3141
02:07:02,550 --> 02:07:00,719
all of us all over the world and

3142
02:07:06,550 --> 02:07:02,560
especially right now

3143
02:07:09,750 --> 02:07:06,560
and i my focus is how do we figure out

3144
02:07:13,030 --> 02:07:09,760
how to do that fast

3145
02:07:14,390 --> 02:07:13,040
and as i said earlier the key is really

3146
02:07:17,270 --> 02:07:14,400
very clear

3147
02:07:20,470 --> 02:07:17,280
we have to find out who is really

3148
02:07:23,750 --> 02:07:20,480
vulnerable and be able to identify them

3149
02:07:26,069 --> 02:07:23,760
and as far as leaders using this to

3150
02:07:27,189 --> 02:07:26,079
exert a new level of control that's

3151
02:07:30,550 --> 02:07:27,199
gonna happen

3152
02:07:34,310 --> 02:07:30,560
and it'll fade away too sooner or later

3153
02:07:38,950 --> 02:07:34,320
i mean the the uh apple and

3154
02:07:41,910 --> 02:07:38,960
google tracking systems will be deployed

3155
02:07:44,069 --> 02:07:41,920
and people will use them and they might

3156
02:07:47,510 --> 02:07:44,079
or might not be helpful

3157
02:07:48,550 --> 02:07:47,520
and google and babel will not turn them

3158
02:07:51,189 --> 02:07:48,560
off

3159
02:07:51,589 --> 02:07:51,199
but people will people will turn them

3160
02:07:56,629 --> 02:07:51,599
off

3161
02:08:00,069 --> 02:07:56,639
talking to a person who doesn't even

3162
02:08:02,790 --> 02:08:00,079
have wi-fi right well that was my point

3163
02:08:03,750 --> 02:08:02,800
that was my point that there's another

3164
02:08:07,189 --> 02:08:03,760
benefit

3165
02:08:08,310 --> 02:08:07,199
of this whitley and that is people

3166
02:08:11,830 --> 02:08:08,320
wanting to

3167
02:08:12,390 --> 02:08:11,840
connect with you or other programs like

3168
02:08:14,310 --> 02:08:12,400
this

3169
02:08:15,750 --> 02:08:14,320
and and conversations that haven't had

3170
02:08:17,430 --> 02:08:15,760
the time before

3171
02:08:19,830 --> 02:08:17,440
maybe it's too late at night they're too

3172
02:08:20,790 --> 02:08:19,840
busy but now everybody's got time on

3173
02:08:24,149 --> 02:08:20,800
their hands

3174
02:08:25,030 --> 02:08:24,159
and they're also concerned so have you

3175
02:08:27,750 --> 02:08:25,040
seen

3176
02:08:28,069 --> 02:08:27,760
a rise in people reaching out to you for

3177
02:08:39,109 --> 02:08:28,079
for

3178
02:08:40,550 --> 02:08:39,119
calmness because i'm i'm very much at

3179
02:08:44,069 --> 02:08:40,560
peace in myself

3180
02:08:47,430 --> 02:08:44,079
i i just am now i've been through

3181
02:08:49,750 --> 02:08:47,440
so much in the long lifetime of

3182
02:08:51,109 --> 02:08:49,760
contending with the often contentious

3183
02:08:54,870 --> 02:08:51,119
and difficult

3184
02:08:59,030 --> 02:08:54,880
visitors and the media

3185
02:09:02,390 --> 02:08:59,040
mockery and all the trolls and

3186
02:09:03,109 --> 02:09:02,400
uh well like example just perfect

3187
02:09:04,790 --> 02:09:03,119
example i

3188
02:09:06,709 --> 02:09:04,800
i have a computer i've been trying to

3189
02:09:09,589 --> 02:09:06,719
sell i tried to sell it on ebay

3190
02:09:11,750 --> 02:09:09,599
i made the mistake of putting up on my

3191
02:09:14,790 --> 02:09:11,760
facebook page that it was for sale

3192
02:09:18,390 --> 02:09:14,800
and so what happens a guy comes along

3193
02:09:21,430 --> 02:09:18,400
and bids out everybody else

3194
02:09:24,790 --> 02:09:21,440
and then doesn't pay for the specific

3195
02:09:28,310 --> 02:09:24,800
purpose of sabotaging me

3196
02:09:30,149 --> 02:09:28,320
and that is my life do am i disappointed

3197
02:09:30,790 --> 02:09:30,159
yeah i would like to sell the computer

3198
02:09:33,910 --> 02:09:30,800
but

3199
02:09:36,950 --> 02:09:33,920
am i surprised no am i angry

3200
02:09:38,229 --> 02:09:36,960
and eaten up by it not at all not

3201
02:09:43,270 --> 02:09:38,239
anymore

3202
02:09:50,310 --> 02:09:46,390
roll along i picture

3203
02:09:53,910 --> 02:09:50,320
uh and i've i've tried to

3204
02:09:57,189 --> 02:09:53,920
uh project this uh on this show

3205
02:10:00,390 --> 02:09:57,199
that i walk around in in

3206
02:10:03,030 --> 02:10:00,400
the zenith state that i can i just

3207
02:10:04,790 --> 02:10:03,040
i just live my life that way point of

3208
02:10:07,030 --> 02:10:04,800
living otherwise if you don't

3209
02:10:09,270 --> 02:10:07,040
that's right have that have access to

3210
02:10:12,149 --> 02:10:09,280
joy

3211
02:10:12,709 --> 02:10:12,159
now you have to you have to you have to

3212
02:10:15,990 --> 02:10:12,719
you have to

3213
02:10:18,950 --> 02:10:16,000
find your place in joy that's the whole

3214
02:10:20,550 --> 02:10:18,960
there's no other reason to be alive so i

3215
02:10:21,189 --> 02:10:20,560
know people i know people who are rich

3216
02:10:23,189 --> 02:10:21,199
and just

3217
02:10:25,189 --> 02:10:23,199
concentrate on getting richer and richer

3218
02:10:26,229 --> 02:10:25,199
and richer and i said to one of them i

3219
02:10:27,669 --> 02:10:26,239
said one guy is a

3220
02:10:29,350 --> 02:10:27,679
multi-billionaire of course he doesn't

3221
02:10:32,629 --> 02:10:29,360
think to help other people like

3222
02:10:34,629 --> 02:10:32,639
this poor guy and but you know

3223
02:10:36,390 --> 02:10:34,639
if people always say well why doesn't so

3224
02:10:38,629 --> 02:10:36,400
and so help you i said

3225
02:10:39,830 --> 02:10:38,639
he's not a billionaire because he's

3226
02:10:42,870 --> 02:10:39,840
generous

3227
02:10:45,430 --> 02:10:42,880
okay and that that the bill gates's are

3228
02:10:48,629 --> 02:10:45,440
few and far between in this world

3229
02:10:54,550 --> 02:10:48,639
so um but what's the point

3230
02:11:01,030 --> 02:10:57,910
we're here to have a joyous life not

3231
02:11:04,310 --> 02:11:01,040
to not to

3232
02:11:04,950 --> 02:11:04,320
do things like that it reminds me of ted

3233
02:11:08,870 --> 02:11:04,960
knight

3234
02:11:11,270 --> 02:11:08,880
in uh caddyshack you know he's the rich

3235
02:11:12,069 --> 02:11:11,280
judge yeah remember i love that movie

3236
02:11:14,229 --> 02:11:12,079
yeah well

3237
02:11:16,390 --> 02:11:14,239
when ted knight goes the world needs

3238
02:11:18,629 --> 02:11:16,400
ditch diggers too

3239
02:11:19,589 --> 02:11:18,639
yeah we're all right it's such a classic

3240
02:11:21,350 --> 02:11:19,599
scene uh

3241
02:11:22,870 --> 02:11:21,360
can i get you to hang on and continue

3242
02:11:26,390 --> 02:11:22,880
the conversation

3243
02:11:28,390 --> 02:11:26,400
how long jimmy i've three hours whitley

3244
02:11:30,870 --> 02:11:28,400
you're not you're gonna go from this

3245
02:11:33,990 --> 02:11:30,880
show straight into meditation

3246
02:11:34,709 --> 02:11:34,000
how's that oh god look jimmy i'll i'll

3247
02:11:37,910 --> 02:11:34,719
see if

3248
02:11:39,109 --> 02:11:37,920
i can do it but i i i'll go for another

3249
02:11:41,589 --> 02:11:39,119
half hour but i'm having

3250
02:11:42,149 --> 02:11:41,599
sitting here frankly in a room that's

3251
02:11:44,950 --> 02:11:42,159
like an

3252
02:11:46,709 --> 02:11:44,960
oven i have no it's not air conditioned

3253
02:11:49,990 --> 02:11:46,719
and i can't open the windows or illinois

3254
02:11:52,629 --> 02:11:50,000
my voice will annoy them exactly uh yeah

3255
02:11:54,390 --> 02:11:52,639
20 minutes and uh and we'll call it a

3256
02:11:56,709 --> 02:11:54,400
night but thank you so much

3257
02:11:58,550 --> 02:11:56,719
another great conversation stay right

3258
02:12:01,030 --> 02:11:58,560
there everybody we're gonna go

3259
02:12:02,470 --> 02:12:01,040
do some overtime with whitley strieber

3260
02:12:04,229 --> 02:12:02,480
this is fade to black

3261
02:12:05,910 --> 02:12:04,239
i am your host jimmy church he thought i

3262
02:12:06,629 --> 02:12:05,920
was serious about the three hours by the

3263
02:12:08,870 --> 02:12:06,639
way

3264
02:12:10,470 --> 02:12:08,880
let's uh take a quick break and we'll be

3265
02:12:12,790 --> 02:12:10,480
right back follow me on twitter

3266
02:12:13,910 --> 02:12:12,800
at jchurchradio and you can follow

3267
02:12:16,390 --> 02:12:13,920
whitley on twitter

3268
02:12:17,910 --> 02:12:16,400
at whitley streeber we've got it all

3269
02:12:23,160 --> 02:12:17,920
right up in our feed

3270
02:12:23,170 --> 02:12:48,870
[Music]

3271
02:12:52,310 --> 02:12:50,470
welcome back fade to black our guest

3272
02:12:54,310 --> 02:12:52,320
tonight whitley streeber we're going to

3273
02:12:56,069 --> 02:12:54,320
go straight into some overtime

3274
02:12:58,470 --> 02:12:56,079
i want to remind everybody what's going

3275
02:13:01,030 --> 02:12:58,480
on this week tomorrow night johnny enoch

3276
02:13:01,990 --> 02:13:01,040
joins the show wednesday night nick

3277
02:13:03,990 --> 02:13:02,000
redfern is here

3278
02:13:05,910 --> 02:13:04,000
he's got a new book out on randall shim

3279
02:13:07,990 --> 02:13:05,920
and then of course thursday night

3280
02:13:09,270 --> 02:13:08,000
is fader night with open lines all night

3281
02:13:11,109 --> 02:13:09,280
long and

3282
02:13:13,270 --> 02:13:11,119
back to whitley but whitley i'm going to

3283
02:13:14,870 --> 02:13:13,280
change course i'm going to change course

3284
02:13:18,709 --> 02:13:14,880
and catch you by surprise

3285
02:13:21,430 --> 02:13:18,719
a week ago today a week ago

3286
02:13:22,550 --> 02:13:21,440
the united states navy and the pentagon

3287
02:13:25,589 --> 02:13:22,560
announced the

3288
02:13:26,069 --> 02:13:25,599
official release of those three ufo

3289
02:13:29,109 --> 02:13:26,079
slash

3290
02:13:32,069 --> 02:13:29,119
uap videos the media

3291
02:13:33,589 --> 02:13:32,079
grabbed on to the story and tried to

3292
02:13:36,149 --> 02:13:33,599
make it viral

3293
02:13:37,350 --> 02:13:36,159
but the response from the rest of the

3294
02:13:40,550 --> 02:13:37,360
world

3295
02:13:44,790 --> 02:13:40,560
seemed to be very muted and

3296
02:13:49,910 --> 02:13:44,800
i i'm not sure why did that surprise you

3297
02:13:53,109 --> 02:13:49,920
not at all their response was muted

3298
02:13:58,149 --> 02:13:55,510
here's one of them is that people were

3299
02:14:01,350 --> 02:13:58,159
not exactly surprised

3300
02:14:04,310 --> 02:14:01,360
because they

3301
02:14:04,950 --> 02:14:04,320
you know anyone could see that there was

3302
02:14:06,790 --> 02:14:04,960
something

3303
02:14:08,950 --> 02:14:06,800
very strange going on you hear the

3304
02:14:11,910 --> 02:14:08,960
voices of those pilots

3305
02:14:13,109 --> 02:14:11,920
and you know that's true and it's

3306
02:14:15,270 --> 02:14:13,119
obviously not

3307
02:14:16,870 --> 02:14:15,280
something of ours no matter what anyone

3308
02:14:19,589 --> 02:14:16,880
says because this would be a different

3309
02:14:23,270 --> 02:14:19,599
world if we had technology like that

3310
02:14:24,830 --> 02:14:23,280
even if it was held secret because that

3311
02:14:30,790 --> 02:14:24,840
technology

3312
02:14:32,229 --> 02:14:30,800
and if we had any gravity devices that

3313
02:14:34,790 --> 02:14:32,239
were secret

3314
02:14:35,990 --> 02:14:34,800
they would be like all other secret

3315
02:14:39,109 --> 02:14:36,000
stuff if you looked

3316
02:14:43,030 --> 02:14:39,119
back in the literature 10 years

3317
02:14:45,990 --> 02:14:43,040
five years you would see the beginnings

3318
02:14:47,750 --> 02:14:46,000
of this just as you can if you looked

3319
02:14:49,189 --> 02:14:47,760
back in the literature of stealth

3320
02:14:51,430 --> 02:14:49,199
aircraft

3321
02:14:53,510 --> 02:14:51,440
years ago when they were very secret you

3322
02:14:56,629 --> 02:14:53,520
could see in the literature

3323
02:14:59,350 --> 02:14:56,639
the non-classified literature where

3324
02:15:01,270 --> 02:14:59,360
that technology was coming from i know

3325
02:15:04,310 --> 02:15:01,280
because i did that

3326
02:15:05,750 --> 02:15:04,320
and then that was before any of this

3327
02:15:07,510 --> 02:15:05,760
visitor stuff happened because i was

3328
02:15:09,030 --> 02:15:07,520
interested in that and i was

3329
02:15:11,830 --> 02:15:09,040
writing thrillers at the time and i

3330
02:15:12,470 --> 02:15:11,840
thought i could maybe make a thriller

3331
02:15:15,750 --> 02:15:12,480
out of that

3332
02:15:19,189 --> 02:15:15,760
in any case i i didn't but

3333
02:15:20,310 --> 02:15:19,199
in fact that's the case there's nothing

3334
02:15:23,350 --> 02:15:20,320
like that

3335
02:15:25,430 --> 02:15:23,360
there's nothing anywhere

3336
02:15:27,350 --> 02:15:25,440
about anything like that which means

3337
02:15:29,589 --> 02:15:27,360
it's not ours

3338
02:15:31,669 --> 02:15:29,599
so people weren't ex you know it was it

3339
02:15:32,629 --> 02:15:31,679
was it was a sort of a ho-hum yeah they

3340
02:15:35,270 --> 02:15:32,639
finally admitted

3341
02:15:36,470 --> 02:15:35,280
what's obvious but i've got a few

3342
02:15:38,790 --> 02:15:36,480
questions here

3343
02:15:40,149 --> 02:15:38,800
what's that my first here's my first

3344
02:15:44,229 --> 02:15:40,159
question

3345
02:15:47,589 --> 02:15:44,239
why in the world does the navy

3346
02:15:50,310 --> 02:15:47,599
first say that

3347
02:15:51,750 --> 02:15:50,320
this they cannot release any more of

3348
02:15:54,790 --> 02:15:51,760
these files

3349
02:15:55,109 --> 02:15:54,800
because it involves a that would involve

3350
02:16:26,629 --> 02:15:55,119
a

3351
02:16:29,750 --> 02:16:26,639
we need to figure out how to fix

3352
02:16:32,469 --> 02:16:29,760
it is dead silent because its mission

3353
02:16:35,030 --> 02:16:32,479
is to protect the united states from

3354
02:16:37,589 --> 02:16:35,040
threats from above

3355
02:16:39,669 --> 02:16:37,599
and it can't do it in this case and i've

3356
02:16:43,429 --> 02:16:39,679
heard ufo investigators say but

3357
02:16:46,709 --> 02:16:43,439
it's there's no threat well i'm sorry

3358
02:16:47,950 --> 02:16:46,719
come into my bedroom on december the

3359
02:16:50,950 --> 02:16:47,960
26th

3360
02:16:55,509 --> 02:16:50,960
1985 and i will show you a threat

3361
02:16:58,549 --> 02:16:55,519
that they could not protect me from and

3362
02:17:01,990 --> 02:16:58,559
to their everlasting shame they

3363
02:17:05,429 --> 02:17:02,000
never warned any of us about

3364
02:17:07,190 --> 02:17:05,439
this possibility so when this comes to

3365
02:17:10,230 --> 02:17:07,200
you in the night

3366
02:17:13,750 --> 02:17:10,240
you have no way

3367
02:17:13,990 --> 02:17:13,760
at all of expecting it or knowing what

3368
02:17:16,790 --> 02:17:14,000
to

3369
02:17:18,389 --> 02:17:16,800
do if anything the reason is there's

3370
02:17:20,070 --> 02:17:18,399
nothing we can do

3371
02:17:22,150 --> 02:17:20,080
there's nothing they can do they can't

3372
02:17:24,389 --> 02:17:22,160
protect us from this

3373
02:17:26,230 --> 02:17:24,399
so what is their mission well their

3374
02:17:27,910 --> 02:17:26,240
mission has to be to protect us from the

3375
02:17:29,349 --> 02:17:27,920
chinese and the russians and people like

3376
02:17:30,950 --> 02:17:29,359
that that they can protect us from and

3377
02:17:32,230 --> 02:17:30,960
they do a very good job of that and more

3378
02:17:33,990 --> 02:17:32,240
power to them

3379
02:17:35,750 --> 02:17:34,000
they need to admit the fact that this is

3380
02:17:37,589 --> 02:17:35,760
an unknown and we can't do a darn thing

3381
02:17:39,429 --> 02:17:37,599
about it they all do

3382
02:17:41,429 --> 02:17:39,439
that's where this needs to go and when

3383
02:17:43,750 --> 02:17:41,439
it goes down that road then the public's

3384
02:17:46,950 --> 02:17:43,760
going to be interested again

3385
02:17:47,750 --> 02:17:46,960
now why is it whitley and i know that

3386
02:17:51,030 --> 02:17:47,760
you've

3387
02:17:52,070 --> 02:17:51,040
uh thought about this that and it's

3388
02:17:55,110 --> 02:17:52,080
probably

3389
02:17:55,589 --> 02:17:55,120
pretty close to 50 50 in that anybody

3390
02:17:59,349 --> 02:17:55,599
that

3391
02:18:00,790 --> 02:17:59,359
sees these videos is divided into two

3392
02:18:04,870 --> 02:18:00,800
groups

3393
02:18:07,509 --> 02:18:04,880
probably 50 50 in that the one side

3394
02:18:09,270 --> 02:18:07,519
doesn't see anything extraterrestrial or

3395
02:18:10,870 --> 02:18:09,280
strange about the videos

3396
02:18:13,030 --> 02:18:10,880
and then you've got the other group

3397
02:18:16,070 --> 02:18:13,040
immediately without a gray area

3398
02:18:19,349 --> 02:18:16,080
in the middle that see nothing

3399
02:18:21,589 --> 02:18:19,359
but uh something strange and

3400
02:18:22,790 --> 02:18:21,599
quite possibly off planet and for them

3401
02:18:25,429 --> 02:18:22,800
there's no question

3402
02:18:27,589 --> 02:18:25,439
about what they are seeing how can it be

3403
02:18:29,830 --> 02:18:27,599
such a divide when we're all seeing the

3404
02:18:31,830 --> 02:18:29,840
same videos

3405
02:18:33,349 --> 02:18:31,840
well it's because people think

3406
02:18:34,709 --> 02:18:33,359
differently and their minds work

3407
02:18:38,309 --> 02:18:34,719
differently

3408
02:18:40,950 --> 02:18:38,319
uh as far as this is concerned

3409
02:18:41,429 --> 02:18:40,960
they're called the grays for a reason i

3410
02:18:47,349 --> 02:18:41,439
think

3411
02:18:51,589 --> 02:18:50,549
these things could be from off planet or

3412
02:18:53,190 --> 02:18:51,599
they could be from

3413
02:18:55,030 --> 02:18:53,200
here in some way that we don't

3414
02:18:56,549 --> 02:18:55,040
understand in a little while ago

3415
02:18:59,750 --> 02:18:56,559
we were talking about a parallel

3416
02:19:02,790 --> 02:18:59,760
universe that exists right here

3417
02:19:06,870 --> 02:19:02,800
maybe that's where they're from uh

3418
02:19:09,429 --> 02:19:06,880
the i mean this is so complicated

3419
02:19:11,429 --> 02:19:09,439
the beauty of all of this is and the fun

3420
02:19:14,070 --> 02:19:11,439
of it is

3421
02:19:14,870 --> 02:19:14,080
it just gets weirder and weirder and

3422
02:19:17,110 --> 02:19:14,880
weirder

3423
02:19:19,589 --> 02:19:17,120
the closer you look at it the deeper you

3424
02:19:21,910 --> 02:19:19,599
get into it the more you know about it

3425
02:19:25,349 --> 02:19:21,920
the more you know the visitors and as i

3426
02:19:27,750 --> 02:19:25,359
say i live with them now they're my life

3427
02:19:29,349 --> 02:19:27,760
i i would be terribly lonely if i did

3428
02:19:30,790 --> 02:19:29,359
not have them in my life i'm they're

3429
02:19:34,389 --> 02:19:30,800
incredibly valuable

3430
02:19:38,469 --> 02:19:34,399
companions now but what are they

3431
02:19:41,429 --> 02:19:38,479
they have no idea i just live with it

3432
02:19:42,549 --> 02:19:41,439
and we have to do the same thing with

3433
02:19:44,790 --> 02:19:42,559
this whole thing and

3434
02:19:46,790 --> 02:19:44,800
maybe maybe they're gonna maybe they're

3435
02:19:49,429 --> 02:19:46,800
gonna suck me up in the end and

3436
02:19:50,389 --> 02:19:49,439
eat me for lunch i don't have any idea

3437
02:19:52,230 --> 02:19:50,399
but not now

3438
02:19:53,750 --> 02:19:52,240
it hasn't happened today and so i'm

3439
02:19:57,750 --> 02:19:53,760
still going

3440
02:19:59,990 --> 02:19:57,760
um where will this go

3441
02:20:01,429 --> 02:20:00,000
well probably the navy hopes it'll go

3442
02:20:04,469 --> 02:20:01,439
away

3443
02:20:06,550 --> 02:20:04,479
and you have this strange i mean i

3444
02:20:08,309 --> 02:20:06,560
found it find it quite strange this

3445
02:20:12,230 --> 02:20:08,319
group ttsa

3446
02:20:14,790 --> 02:20:12,240
which is a group of uh

3447
02:20:16,630 --> 02:20:14,800
intelligence officers basically some of

3448
02:20:18,710 --> 02:20:16,640
whom i know and are

3449
02:20:20,070 --> 02:20:18,720
lovely people and known one of them hal

3450
02:20:21,750 --> 02:20:20,080
put off for

3451
02:20:23,910 --> 02:20:21,760
most of my adult life and he's a

3452
02:20:25,910 --> 02:20:23,920
marvelous brilliant man

3453
02:20:28,230 --> 02:20:25,920
one of them and one of the sweetest

3454
02:20:30,150 --> 02:20:28,240
nicest people i've ever met

3455
02:20:31,830 --> 02:20:30,160
on the one hand and on the other hand

3456
02:20:33,510 --> 02:20:31,840
he's also the most expert

3457
02:20:35,429 --> 02:20:33,520
secret keeper i've ever met in my life

3458
02:20:38,469 --> 02:20:35,439
he's just a master of it

3459
02:20:40,550 --> 02:20:38,479
and he knows a lot of secrets

3460
02:20:42,309 --> 02:20:40,560
but people are uneasy you know when they

3461
02:20:43,990 --> 02:20:42,319
see these people's credentials the

3462
02:20:45,590 --> 02:20:44,000
credentials are impressive but then they

3463
02:20:47,429 --> 02:20:45,600
think well wait a minute

3464
02:20:50,070 --> 02:20:47,439
this is the intelligence community and

3465
02:20:53,190 --> 02:20:50,080
they've got a rock and roller

3466
02:20:54,950 --> 02:20:53,200
as their front man to to attract the

3467
02:20:57,750 --> 02:20:54,960
attention of the media

3468
02:20:58,710 --> 02:20:57,760
it all looks like some kind of a setup

3469
02:21:01,830 --> 02:20:58,720
frankly

3470
02:21:03,830 --> 02:21:01,840
it's not organic like the people in the

3471
02:21:05,349 --> 02:21:03,840
in the uh close encounter experience is

3472
02:21:09,750 --> 02:21:05,359
totally organic

3473
02:21:12,950 --> 02:21:11,270
running the puppet strings from the

3474
02:21:14,710 --> 02:21:12,960
background or anything and i'm not

3475
02:21:17,349 --> 02:21:14,720
saying they're necessarily doing a bad

3476
02:21:19,910 --> 02:21:17,359
job i think hal's a great guy and i

3477
02:21:23,349 --> 02:21:19,920
think he's probably doing a great job

3478
02:21:26,790 --> 02:21:23,359
but the public is not at ease

3479
02:21:29,910 --> 02:21:26,800
with a situation like that they feel

3480
02:21:33,030 --> 02:21:29,920
that they can't tell whether or not

3481
02:21:35,590 --> 02:21:33,040
the stories are being manipulated for

3482
02:21:36,790 --> 02:21:35,600
reasons that are not being explained i

3483
02:21:38,230 --> 02:21:36,800
guess that's where

3484
02:21:40,230 --> 02:21:38,240
i think they come from and that's why

3485
02:21:41,750 --> 02:21:40,240
they're a little cool on this a little

3486
02:21:43,670 --> 02:21:41,760
hesitant about it

3487
02:21:45,030 --> 02:21:43,680
there's not the enthusiasm for it that

3488
02:21:47,030 --> 02:21:45,040
you think there would be

3489
02:21:49,030 --> 02:21:47,040
because it's after all looks like it's

3490
02:21:52,070 --> 02:21:49,040
increasingly every day like it's about

3491
02:21:55,270 --> 02:21:52,080
contact for god's sakes wonderful

3492
02:21:58,309 --> 02:21:55,280
what an extraordinary thing

3493
02:22:01,349 --> 02:21:58,319
do you understand well yeah this is

3494
02:22:04,950 --> 02:22:01,359
unless that that great

3495
02:22:07,990 --> 02:22:04,960
i believe it's an outer limit show where

3496
02:22:12,550 --> 02:22:08,000
it's it turns out that the the

3497
02:22:16,150 --> 02:22:15,270
remember that i do remember that

3498
02:22:18,469 --> 02:22:16,160
actually

3499
02:22:20,230 --> 02:22:18,479
i do i remember that it's also in one of

3500
02:22:23,830 --> 02:22:20,240
the one of those movies

3501
02:22:27,190 --> 02:22:23,840
uh god i forgot a very funny movie that

3502
02:22:28,710 --> 02:22:27,200
um that plays on that but anyway

3503
02:22:30,150 --> 02:22:28,720
i don't think it's a cookbook and i

3504
02:22:31,670 --> 02:22:30,160
don't think they're here to invade us

3505
02:22:33,990 --> 02:22:31,680
because

3506
02:22:36,870 --> 02:22:34,000
the visitors as i understand and know

3507
02:22:39,590 --> 02:22:36,880
them i've seen some of their

3508
02:22:41,030 --> 02:22:39,600
skills if they were here to invade us

3509
02:22:42,070 --> 02:22:41,040
that would have happened in about three

3510
02:22:44,790 --> 02:22:42,080
seconds

3511
02:22:46,469 --> 02:22:44,800
and it it didn't they're here for other

3512
02:22:50,950 --> 02:22:46,479
reasons

3513
02:22:53,750 --> 02:22:50,960
do you think that even with uh ttsa's

3514
02:22:55,190 --> 02:22:53,760
staff you know like you just suggested i

3515
02:22:58,389 --> 02:22:55,200
mean it's rather obvious

3516
02:22:59,429 --> 02:22:58,399
when you can go and see everybody's cvs

3517
02:23:01,270 --> 02:22:59,439
and credentials

3518
02:23:03,510 --> 02:23:01,280
where they come from uh different

3519
02:23:06,150 --> 02:23:03,520
agencies inside of washington

3520
02:23:07,429 --> 02:23:06,160
that now it's it's two and a half almost

3521
02:23:11,070 --> 02:23:07,439
three years

3522
02:23:13,110 --> 02:23:11,080
since the revelations of uh december of

3523
02:23:16,309 --> 02:23:13,120
2017

3524
02:23:17,990 --> 02:23:16,319
no new uh information has come forward

3525
02:23:21,190 --> 02:23:18,000
from ttsa

3526
02:23:23,110 --> 02:23:21,200
with all of the connections that were

3527
02:23:25,830 --> 02:23:23,120
there do you think that they've

3528
02:23:27,830 --> 02:23:25,840
dried up that they've been cut off from

3529
02:23:30,550 --> 02:23:27,840
access to anything coming

3530
02:23:34,070 --> 02:23:30,560
out of the pentagon because we're still

3531
02:23:35,910 --> 02:23:34,080
looking at the same three videos

3532
02:23:37,910 --> 02:23:35,920
you know that would be a guess and i

3533
02:23:41,510 --> 02:23:37,920
think a probably a good guess

3534
02:23:44,790 --> 02:23:41,520
because we have three videos

3535
02:23:47,830 --> 02:23:44,800
this has been going on for 70 years

3536
02:23:50,870 --> 02:23:47,840
i i've got videos

3537
02:23:51,190 --> 02:23:50,880
just as good uh that are there's one of

3538
02:23:55,590 --> 02:23:51,200
them

3539
02:23:58,550 --> 02:23:55,600
from puerto rico yep i agree

3540
02:24:00,630 --> 02:23:58,560
that is every bit as good as the ttsa

3541
02:24:04,710 --> 02:24:00,640
videos it was taken by a

3542
02:24:07,429 --> 02:24:04,720
plane um

3543
02:24:07,830 --> 02:24:07,439
that was following this thing and you

3544
02:24:10,070 --> 02:24:07,840
know

3545
02:24:11,670 --> 02:24:10,080
with an automatic camera and there are

3546
02:24:14,469 --> 02:24:11,680
others as well

3547
02:24:15,349 --> 02:24:14,479
and you know i i sent that video to one

3548
02:24:16,950 --> 02:24:15,359
of these guys

3549
02:24:18,630 --> 02:24:16,960
i'm not going to say which one but one

3550
02:24:20,870 --> 02:24:18,640
of them

3551
02:24:21,670 --> 02:24:20,880
the puerto rico video and he sent me

3552
02:24:24,790 --> 02:24:21,680
back an email

3553
02:24:26,230 --> 02:24:24,800
saying well we know all about this we

3554
02:24:27,910 --> 02:24:26,240
watched it we saw it

3555
02:24:30,150 --> 02:24:27,920
submerged we know how fast it's going

3556
02:24:33,270 --> 02:24:30,160
and he told me all the details of

3557
02:24:34,550 --> 02:24:33,280
400 feet and going some hundred miles an

3558
02:24:37,990 --> 02:24:34,560
hour or something i don't know

3559
02:24:42,230 --> 02:24:38,000
what and he said then it's not

3560
02:24:43,510 --> 02:24:42,240
an unknown we know what it is and i

3561
02:24:47,270 --> 02:24:43,520
thought

3562
02:24:51,590 --> 02:24:47,280
okay what is it

3563
02:24:56,150 --> 02:24:55,270
and it's not ours but they know what it

3564
02:24:59,429 --> 02:24:56,160
is

3565
02:24:59,990 --> 02:24:59,439
so why are they tell us why don't they

3566
02:25:03,030 --> 02:25:00,000
tell us

3567
02:25:05,349 --> 02:25:03,040
yeah and i would say uh

3568
02:25:06,550 --> 02:25:05,359
my response to that and i i spoke about

3569
02:25:09,030 --> 02:25:06,560
this the other night on

3570
02:25:11,270 --> 02:25:09,040
on on coast as well i have talked about

3571
02:25:15,750 --> 02:25:11,280
the puerto rico video quite a bit

3572
02:25:18,550 --> 02:25:15,760
my response to that is uh a

3573
02:25:20,309 --> 02:25:18,560
ttsa had nothing to do with that video

3574
02:25:23,190 --> 02:25:20,319
or its release

3575
02:25:23,830 --> 02:25:23,200
therefore it's not part of their program

3576
02:25:27,270 --> 02:25:23,840
number one

3577
02:25:30,230 --> 02:25:27,280
number two um the other part

3578
02:25:32,150 --> 02:25:30,240
about the puerto rico video is i think

3579
02:25:34,389 --> 02:25:32,160
that the evidence in that video

3580
02:25:37,030 --> 02:25:34,399
is much more compelling than the three

3581
02:25:40,469 --> 02:25:37,040
videos released by ttsa

3582
02:25:42,950 --> 02:25:40,479
and it just got lost in the chatter

3583
02:25:43,990 --> 02:25:42,960
over the last couple of years it should

3584
02:25:45,590 --> 02:25:44,000
be buried

3585
02:25:47,510 --> 02:25:45,600
in the chat yeah or buried in the

3586
02:25:50,469 --> 02:25:47,520
chatter and it should be

3587
02:25:51,990 --> 02:25:50,479
as researched and talked about who who

3588
02:25:53,590 --> 02:25:52,000
is the crew on the plane

3589
02:25:55,990 --> 02:25:53,600
what were they saying you know bring

3590
02:25:58,710 --> 02:25:56,000
those guys forward and gals

3591
02:25:59,830 --> 02:25:58,720
and and let's find out uh more

3592
02:26:02,309 --> 02:25:59,840
information about it

3593
02:26:03,270 --> 02:26:02,319
and it should be as researched and

3594
02:26:05,910 --> 02:26:03,280
discussed

3595
02:26:07,270 --> 02:26:05,920
and out there in the media just like

3596
02:26:10,710 --> 02:26:07,280
those other three videos

3597
02:26:12,469 --> 02:26:10,720
and it's not and i can't explain why

3598
02:26:14,230 --> 02:26:12,479
well it's because somebody doesn't want

3599
02:26:18,070 --> 02:26:14,240
it to be

3600
02:26:21,110 --> 02:26:18,080
simple as that simple as that

3601
02:26:22,550 --> 02:26:21,120
and why not i you know i've always had

3602
02:26:25,190 --> 02:26:22,560
the sense

3603
02:26:26,870 --> 02:26:25,200
that if there are aliens here they might

3604
02:26:30,630 --> 02:26:26,880
be in control

3605
02:26:32,550 --> 02:26:30,640
of the degree to which their presence is

3606
02:26:34,790 --> 02:26:32,560
being revealed

3607
02:26:35,910 --> 02:26:34,800
in fact i would assume they would be in

3608
02:26:40,150 --> 02:26:35,920
control of that that

3609
02:26:43,030 --> 02:26:40,160
it's not us it's them and

3610
02:26:46,550 --> 02:26:43,040
you know there was a article in the

3611
02:26:49,990 --> 02:26:46,560
magazine science in april of 1977

3612
02:26:53,590 --> 02:26:50,000
by two physicists dbh kuiper and

3613
02:26:56,950 --> 02:26:53,600
mark morris and they

3614
02:26:58,070 --> 02:26:56,960
expressed the thought that if aliens

3615
02:27:01,270 --> 02:26:58,080
came here

3616
02:27:04,309 --> 02:27:01,280
the only thing they would want from us

3617
02:27:06,710 --> 02:27:04,319
was whatever we had that they did not

3618
02:27:09,750 --> 02:27:06,720
know and that wouldn't be much

3619
02:27:12,710 --> 02:27:09,760
but one thing that would be very clear

3620
02:27:14,070 --> 02:27:12,720
is if they revealed themselves then all

3621
02:27:17,030 --> 02:27:14,080
of our

3622
02:27:18,150 --> 02:27:17,040
cultural direction would be turned

3623
02:27:21,429 --> 02:27:18,160
toward them

3624
02:27:23,910 --> 02:27:21,439
and whatever newness and innovation we

3625
02:27:26,550 --> 02:27:23,920
had to offer would just disappear

3626
02:27:28,150 --> 02:27:26,560
so they would have a motive for keeping

3627
02:27:31,990 --> 02:27:28,160
themselves hidden

3628
02:27:35,429 --> 02:27:32,000
and they might very well be compelling

3629
02:27:38,230 --> 02:27:35,439
our governments to keep

3630
02:27:40,389 --> 02:27:38,240
the lid on and they might not be doing

3631
02:27:41,270 --> 02:27:40,399
that by sitting down across a table from

3632
02:27:46,710 --> 02:27:41,280
them

3633
02:27:49,349 --> 02:27:46,720
and i can assure you they have things

3634
02:27:52,550 --> 02:27:49,359
like the control of the human mind

3635
02:27:57,670 --> 02:27:52,560
down pat and

3636
02:28:00,790 --> 02:27:57,680
i learned it took a long time

3637
02:28:02,230 --> 02:28:00,800
to get a battle almost to get to the

3638
02:28:04,870 --> 02:28:02,240
point where

3639
02:28:07,030 --> 02:28:04,880
i'm free of that but somebody who

3640
02:28:09,030 --> 02:28:07,040
doesn't know it exists

3641
02:28:11,030 --> 02:28:09,040
is going to be dancing to their tune and

3642
02:28:13,910 --> 02:28:11,040
not even know it

3643
02:28:15,750 --> 02:28:13,920
and that i can assure you is going to

3644
02:28:17,670 --> 02:28:15,760
happen in the intelligence community

3645
02:28:19,429 --> 02:28:17,680
because most of these people are very

3646
02:28:20,950 --> 02:28:19,439
they're very self-assured and they think

3647
02:28:24,309 --> 02:28:20,960
they know what they're doing

3648
02:28:28,230 --> 02:28:24,319
ideal an ideal

3649
02:28:30,870 --> 02:28:28,240
field of fire for someone who wants to

3650
02:28:34,230 --> 02:28:30,880
control their thoughts

3651
02:28:37,429 --> 02:28:34,240
that twilight zone episode was to serve

3652
02:28:37,830 --> 02:28:37,439
man to serve man that's right yeah thank

3653
02:28:41,110 --> 02:28:37,840
you

3654
02:28:42,950 --> 02:28:41,120
shanna

3655
02:28:44,870 --> 02:28:42,960
one of the fader knots tweeted that out

3656
02:28:46,710 --> 02:28:44,880
that's why i love this audience

3657
02:28:48,870 --> 02:28:46,720
they make you and i look smart oh it's

3658
02:28:50,550 --> 02:28:48,880
such a fun audience i love you guys by

3659
02:28:52,550 --> 02:28:50,560
the way it's always fun to be on

3660
02:28:54,309 --> 02:28:52,560
pay the black and you're a big part of

3661
02:28:54,870 --> 02:28:54,319
the reason yeah thank you for that

3662
02:28:57,590 --> 02:28:54,880
whitley

3663
02:28:57,990 --> 02:28:57,600
and and you know much respect and you

3664
02:29:01,349 --> 02:28:58,000
know

3665
02:29:04,389 --> 02:29:01,359
look i'm i'm gonna say this i spent

3666
02:29:07,510 --> 02:29:04,399
so much time over the years

3667
02:29:10,710 --> 02:29:07,520
listening to your conversations

3668
02:29:13,910 --> 02:29:10,720
and your presentations over on dreamland

3669
02:29:16,309 --> 02:29:13,920
and and i learned so much and

3670
02:29:18,389 --> 02:29:16,319
your ability and then we're going to

3671
02:29:20,790 --> 02:29:18,399
move on i want to make another comment

3672
02:29:22,309 --> 02:29:20,800
but your ability to engage in a

3673
02:29:25,429 --> 02:29:22,319
conversation with a guest

3674
02:29:28,469 --> 02:29:25,439
or a friend on dreamland was

3675
02:29:30,630 --> 02:29:28,479
uh it's a lesson in

3676
02:29:31,670 --> 02:29:30,640
in conversation in how to do that

3677
02:29:35,910 --> 02:29:31,680
naturally

3678
02:29:37,190 --> 02:29:35,920
and yeah if i can well if i can convey

3679
02:29:40,150 --> 02:29:37,200
just a small

3680
02:29:40,870 --> 02:29:40,160
piece of that then i win so hopefully i

3681
02:30:01,110 --> 02:29:40,880
i

3682
02:30:03,349 --> 02:30:01,120
last week

3683
02:30:04,309 --> 02:30:03,359
and on coast to coast over the weekend

3684
02:30:07,590 --> 02:30:04,319
and the reason

3685
02:30:11,110 --> 02:30:07,600
for that uh is this

3686
02:30:12,790 --> 02:30:11,120
what i see in the three ttsa videos or

3687
02:30:16,230 --> 02:30:12,800
any other video

3688
02:30:19,270 --> 02:30:16,240
it it simply doesn't matter my opinion

3689
02:30:23,429 --> 02:30:19,280
doesn't matter but i'll say this

3690
02:30:26,230 --> 02:30:23,439
the puerto rico video when i watch that

3691
02:30:28,070 --> 02:30:26,240
it's one of the rare instances where i'm

3692
02:30:31,510 --> 02:30:28,080
able to sit back and go

3693
02:30:34,630 --> 02:30:31,520
wtf right that

3694
02:30:38,230 --> 02:30:34,640
i can't resolve in my mind

3695
02:30:40,389 --> 02:30:38,240
there is something in this video

3696
02:30:42,710 --> 02:30:40,399
and that that's what i get out of the

3697
02:30:43,429 --> 02:30:42,720
puerto rico video and i'm just surprised

3698
02:30:46,389 --> 02:30:43,439
that

3699
02:30:47,750 --> 02:30:46,399
it it hasn't grabbed hold of this

3700
02:30:49,590 --> 02:30:47,760
community in the rest of the world

3701
02:30:50,790 --> 02:30:49,600
because there's something astounding and

3702
02:30:55,110 --> 02:30:50,800
remarkable

3703
02:30:58,870 --> 02:30:55,120
about that video yeah that's for sure

3704
02:31:01,429 --> 02:30:58,880
uh it is and uh it you know it's a

3705
02:31:02,550 --> 02:31:01,439
let me see if i can find this email or

3706
02:31:06,630 --> 02:31:02,560
read off what this guy

3707
02:31:07,429 --> 02:31:06,640
wrote me um but while i'm looking for

3708
02:31:18,790 --> 02:31:07,439
that

3709
02:31:20,790 --> 02:31:18,800
someone someone put it out there on

3710
02:31:24,070 --> 02:31:20,800
purpose it wasn't it was

3711
02:31:24,469 --> 02:31:24,080
not classified because it was i believe

3712
02:31:26,950 --> 02:31:24,479
it was

3713
02:31:28,389 --> 02:31:26,960
a homeland security plane or something

3714
02:31:31,190 --> 02:31:28,399
yeah i'll tell you how

3715
02:31:31,590 --> 02:31:31,200
i'll tell you how it broke it was uh

3716
02:31:34,790 --> 02:31:31,600
through

3717
02:31:38,070 --> 02:31:34,800
joshua p warren and

3718
02:31:39,590 --> 02:31:38,080
he you know he lived in puerto rico and

3719
02:31:42,710 --> 02:31:39,600
he got the video

3720
02:31:45,190 --> 02:31:42,720
from someone in puerto rico

3721
02:31:46,150 --> 02:31:45,200
and then on fade to black and i believe

3722
02:31:49,190 --> 02:31:46,160
it was

3723
02:31:52,469 --> 02:31:49,200
two years ago and fade to black

3724
02:31:55,190 --> 02:31:52,479
revealed that video and we did it here

3725
02:31:56,070 --> 02:31:55,200
and i thought uh whitley at the time i

3726
02:31:58,150 --> 02:31:56,080
thought man this is

3727
02:31:59,590 --> 02:31:58,160
this is it right this is it this is the

3728
02:32:04,309 --> 02:31:59,600
holy grail

3729
02:32:07,349 --> 02:32:04,319
and it just it just didn't take off

3730
02:32:10,550 --> 02:32:07,359
no pun intended by the way but i

3731
02:32:13,190 --> 02:32:10,560
i thought it was it was uh shocking

3732
02:32:13,990 --> 02:32:13,200
to see and i think anybody that sees it

3733
02:32:17,110 --> 02:32:14,000
agrees

3734
02:32:20,070 --> 02:32:17,120
whoa this is this is incredible but but

3735
02:32:22,070 --> 02:32:20,080
the media just uh decided to ignore it

3736
02:32:25,190 --> 02:32:22,080
okay did you find the email

3737
02:32:27,670 --> 02:32:25,200
yes uh okay

3738
02:32:29,590 --> 02:32:27,680
i sent it sent him an email saying this

3739
02:32:31,190 --> 02:32:29,600
is a physical object the video was made

3740
02:32:33,510 --> 02:32:31,200
by an automatic surveillance camera in

3741
02:32:36,550 --> 02:32:33,520
puerto rico some years ago he replies

3742
02:32:38,870 --> 02:32:36,560
true not a tic tac slow 60 knots no

3743
02:32:40,710 --> 02:32:38,880
odd behaviors photograph from a

3744
02:32:41,349 --> 02:32:40,720
department of homeland security single

3745
02:32:44,630 --> 02:32:41,359
engine prop

3746
02:32:44,870 --> 02:32:44,640
aircraft camera features auto following

3747
02:32:57,270 --> 02:32:44,880
i

3748
02:32:58,550 --> 02:32:57,280
object appeared to enter water and

3749
02:33:01,990 --> 02:32:58,560
re-emerge which it did

3750
02:33:05,590 --> 02:33:02,000
was explained was a classified uso

3751
02:33:07,670 --> 02:33:05,600
not odd in any way to alt physics

3752
02:33:08,710 --> 02:33:07,680
wait a minute not in any way related to

3753
02:33:11,750 --> 02:33:08,720
tic tacs or

3754
02:33:12,630 --> 02:33:11,760
or for or either the nimitz or the

3755
02:33:15,349 --> 02:33:12,640
roosevelt

3756
02:33:16,550 --> 02:33:15,359
on atlantic coast later in 2014.

3757
02:33:20,790 --> 02:33:16,560
classified

3758
02:33:24,150 --> 02:33:20,800
uso yeah

3759
02:33:25,910 --> 02:33:24,160
it does not mean that it is ours it's a

3760
02:33:29,110 --> 02:33:25,920
very cleverly

3761
02:33:30,230 --> 02:33:29,120
worded thing it means that they know

3762
02:33:34,309 --> 02:33:30,240
what it is

3763
02:33:37,429 --> 02:33:34,319
not that it is ours

3764
02:33:41,590 --> 02:33:37,439
see that's fascinating hmm

3765
02:33:43,349 --> 02:33:41,600
fascinating i don't have words right now

3766
02:33:45,349 --> 02:33:43,359
that's a that's a very interesting

3767
02:33:45,910 --> 02:33:45,359
response and obviously i know who this

3768
02:33:49,110 --> 02:33:45,920
person

3769
02:33:50,790 --> 02:33:49,120
is i don't know who wrote it but no if i

3770
02:33:52,950 --> 02:33:50,800
you don't know this person he's not in

3771
02:33:53,750 --> 02:33:52,960
he's not a ttsa person oh i thought he

3772
02:33:56,469 --> 02:33:53,760
was okay

3773
02:33:58,230 --> 02:33:56,479
oh no no no not at all he's he's in an

3774
02:34:00,710 --> 02:33:58,240
entirely different area

3775
02:34:02,150 --> 02:34:00,720
and you would never and he's a personal

3776
02:34:02,550 --> 02:34:02,160
friend of mine it has been for many

3777
02:34:05,590 --> 02:34:02,560
years

3778
02:34:09,510 --> 02:34:05,600
okay so it's

3779
02:34:10,309 --> 02:34:09,520
uh it's very interesting uh on every

3780
02:34:11,750 --> 02:34:10,319
level

3781
02:34:13,510 --> 02:34:11,760
they they know what they can't say

3782
02:34:15,110 --> 02:34:13,520
anything that there that's classified

3783
02:34:16,790 --> 02:34:15,120
nor did

3784
02:34:18,389 --> 02:34:16,800
i repeat anything it's classified i

3785
02:34:18,950 --> 02:34:18,399
don't even know anything classified

3786
02:34:22,070 --> 02:34:18,960
about that

3787
02:34:25,110 --> 02:34:22,080
would you interpret this the uso is a

3788
02:34:28,150 --> 02:34:25,120
uh interesting term to use um

3789
02:34:31,830 --> 02:34:28,160
yeah are you are you

3790
02:34:35,030 --> 02:34:31,840
are you confident in am i seeing

3791
02:34:36,870 --> 02:34:35,040
or hearing uap that this is like an

3792
02:34:39,910 --> 02:34:36,880
unidentified aerial phenomenon

3793
02:34:43,030 --> 02:34:39,920
or underwater yeah well uso surface

3794
02:34:46,230 --> 02:34:43,040
object or something i i guess right um

3795
02:34:49,510 --> 02:34:46,240
but it's uh but it

3796
02:34:53,510 --> 02:34:49,520
non-odd in any way to alt physics

3797
02:34:56,870 --> 02:34:53,520
is code for saying we know what it is

3798
02:34:59,030 --> 02:34:56,880
in in exotic

3799
02:35:00,389 --> 02:34:59,040
the world of exotic physics right that

3800
02:35:03,670 --> 02:35:00,399
doesn't necessarily mean

3801
02:35:05,429 --> 02:35:03,680
it's ours very interesting and thank you

3802
02:35:05,750 --> 02:35:05,439
for that thank you for uh looking that

3803
02:35:07,910 --> 02:35:05,760
up

3804
02:35:08,790 --> 02:35:07,920
whitley what a great conversation

3805
02:35:10,710 --> 02:35:08,800
tonight uh

3806
02:35:11,990 --> 02:35:10,720
it is just awesome every time you're on

3807
02:35:15,190 --> 02:35:12,000
the show with us

3808
02:35:19,349 --> 02:35:15,200
but really quick for everybody

3809
02:35:23,429 --> 02:35:19,359
how often do you put out dreamland

3810
02:35:26,150 --> 02:35:23,439
and where can everybody go to subscribe

3811
02:35:28,469 --> 02:35:26,160
okay there's lots of ways to do this

3812
02:35:31,910 --> 02:35:28,479
first of all dreamland is free and

3813
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3814
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listen to it free you can listen to it

3815
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in a lot of places including on ktra on

3816
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3817
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3818
02:35:47,750 --> 02:35:45,280
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3819
02:35:49,510 --> 02:35:47,760
lots of places and you will hear the

3820
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3821
02:35:53,349 --> 02:35:51,120
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3822
02:35:54,469 --> 02:35:53,359
exerting mind control and you will do

3823
02:35:57,349 --> 02:35:54,479
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3824
02:35:59,030 --> 02:35:57,359
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3825
02:36:00,950 --> 02:35:59,040
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02:36:06,070 --> 02:36:03,760
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3828
02:36:09,429 --> 02:36:06,080
and uh

3829
02:36:12,389 --> 02:36:09,439
this week we have a great show we have

3830
02:36:14,790 --> 02:36:12,399
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3831
02:36:18,469 --> 02:36:14,800
mentioned in preston dennett's book

3832
02:36:21,110 --> 02:36:18,479
uh that he he published very recently

3833
02:36:22,309 --> 02:36:21,120
about onboard ufo encounters we had him

3834
02:36:24,870 --> 02:36:22,319
last week

3835
02:36:25,750 --> 02:36:24,880
and now two of the witnesses this week

3836
02:36:29,429 --> 02:36:25,760
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3837
02:36:30,710 --> 02:36:29,439
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3838
02:36:32,710 --> 02:36:30,720
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3839
02:36:33,910 --> 02:36:32,720
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3840
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3841
02:36:37,830 --> 02:36:35,840
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3842
02:36:39,670 --> 02:36:37,840
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3843
02:36:42,150 --> 02:36:39,680
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3844
02:36:44,150 --> 02:36:42,160
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3845
02:36:46,070 --> 02:36:44,160
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3846
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3847
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3848
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3849
02:36:56,790 --> 02:36:54,880
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3850
02:37:00,710 --> 02:36:56,800
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3851
02:37:01,510 --> 02:37:00,720
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3856
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3857
02:37:15,270 --> 02:37:12,880
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02:37:17,750 --> 02:37:15,280
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3859
02:37:20,469 --> 02:37:17,760
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3860
02:37:22,070 --> 02:37:20,479
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02:37:22,950 --> 02:37:22,080
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3865
02:37:30,150 --> 02:37:29,280
so awesome whitley yeah keep doing your

3866
02:37:33,750 --> 02:37:30,160
thing man

3867
02:37:35,590 --> 02:37:33,760
and uh you're just uh a treasure and a

3868
02:37:37,349 --> 02:37:35,600
resource for this community

3869
02:37:40,469 --> 02:37:37,359
and for the world and and you know i

3870
02:37:43,990 --> 02:37:40,479
mean that but thank you so much

3871
02:37:44,469 --> 02:37:44,000
thank you whitley strieber and whitley's

3872
02:37:48,389 --> 02:37:44,479
links

3873
02:37:48,950 --> 02:37:48,399
again are over at jimmychurchradio.com

3874
02:37:50,950 --> 02:37:48,960
and

3875
02:37:53,190 --> 02:37:50,960
there you have it we just went through

3876
02:37:55,110 --> 02:37:53,200
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3877
02:37:56,790 --> 02:37:55,120
a straight two and a half hours with

3878
02:37:57,670 --> 02:37:56,800
whitley strieber thank you so much

3879
02:37:59,510 --> 02:37:57,680
whitley

3880
02:38:01,349 --> 02:37:59,520
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3881
02:38:01,990 --> 02:38:01,359
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3889
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3891
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copied or used anywhere in the known

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universe

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without written permission from fade to

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black or the game changer network

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i'm your host jimmy church tomorrow

3903
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night right here johnny enoch

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very special thanks to whitley strieber

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until tomorrow night i want everybody to

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be